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			Great deal. Would have been a good deal for gio   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:21 PM
			
			
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			haha, that's pretty funny to see Brian Lashoff technically getting traded for a 1st and 3rd. 
 
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			04-10-2021, 04:21 PM
			
			
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			Incoming: Gio to Florida 50% retained for Montour and a 7th.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:22 PM
			
			
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			LeBrun shows Lashoff going to Tampa, but Detroit’s twitter has Lashoff in Columbus.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:23 PM
			
			
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			That is a HUGE return for Brian Lashoff. Wonder if we can get a 1st and 3rd for Nesterov 
 
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			04-10-2021, 04:25 PM
			
			
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			Tampa can afford to do this as they are a well built and well run team. Maybe someday the Flames will be too....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:32 PM
			
			
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			also another example of Yzerman being a heck of a GM ... getting a 4th for a bit of short-term cap space is a neat little move for a rebuilding team. The Tampa connection probably helped facilitate this, but still, nice work.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:34 PM
			
			
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				also another example of Yzerman being a heck of a GM ... getting a 4th for a bit of short-term cap space is a neat little move for a rebuilding team. The Tampa connection probably helped facilitate this, but still, nice work. 
			
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Yeah. Finding picks anywhere you can is huge. Snagging Edmonton’s 3rd while getting Edmonton to eat $750K on Looch was a nice bit of work by Tree on that front. I hope he manages to do stuff like this between now and the deadline.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:36 PM
			
			
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			Hypothetical question; if another team was involved, could they retain 50% of 25% for a 6th rd pick? That is ridiculous.  
 
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			04-10-2021, 04:39 PM
			
			
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				Hypothetical question; if another team was involved, could they retain 50% of 25% for a 6th rd pick? That is ridiculous.  
 
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no, you can only retain a part of a player's contract twice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 04:42 PM
			
			
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				Incoming: Gio to Florida 50% retained for Montour and a 7th. 
			
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			04-10-2021, 04:53 PM
			
			
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			So you can only trade for a player at 50% retained salary. Due to the three way nature of this deal, Tampa gets the player at 75% retained? 
 
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			04-10-2021, 04:56 PM
			
			
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			It must be getting to the end of the run way for Kekäläinen and Torts .  Last year they eliminated the Leafs and battled toe to toe with TB.   The year before they swept TB and went 6 games with the Bruins.   Now they are in a rebuild??  
 
Domi for Anderson 
 
PLD for Laine and Roslovic 
 
Now he starts his search for a true #1C.   As the Flames have shown; not that easy.   Right now Monahan / Lindholm  >>> Domi/Roslovic
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 05:14 PM
			
			
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				The Flames could have provided a slightly better player and got the 32nd pick.  
 
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			04-10-2021, 05:32 PM
			
			
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Exactly, Tampa only had a cap compliant roster this year because Kucherovs $9 million salary is on LTIR, plus they grabbed a bunch of additional LTIR relief.
 
Capfriendly has them projected at $3.5 million OVER the cap next season with only 14 players on the roster. Even at 50% retained they simply cannot trade for Giordano.
 
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			04-10-2021, 05:32 PM
			
			
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Is this really so hard to understand?  Tampa might have the worst cap situation in the NHL for next season 
			
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No "might" about it.
 
If they do nothing between now and next season...they are almost 4 million over needing to add a dman and sign 2 F's by my count.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 05:37 PM
			
			
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				No "might" about it. 
 
If they do nothing between now and next season...they are almost 4 million over needing to add a dman and sign 2 F's by my count. 
			
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Meh. Anytime a team is in cap hell they, seem to figure it out or wiggle out of it, without losing anybody major. I presume Seattle will help them out this summer.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 05:38 PM
			
			
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Acquiring picks and making trades is not an all or nothing agenda. Trade UFA’s, non-UFA’s, get picks and prospects and rebuild.
 
Make moves. Standing pat is extremely dumb. Apparently this is hard to understand for you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			04-10-2021, 05:47 PM
			
			
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				Meh. Anytime a team is in cap hell they, seem to figure it out or wiggle out of it, without losing anybody major. I presume Seattle will help them out this summer. 
			
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Im sure they will but it is still going to cost them something. Likely a really good roster player.
 
But the point really was, there was no way TB could add Gio beyond this season without sending money out.
 
They just added 2 players without losing a roster player.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-10-2021, 05:50 PM
			
			
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				Acquiring picks and making trades is not an all or nothing agenda. Trade UFA’s, non-UFA’s, get picks and prospects and rebuild. 
 
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I was replying to your comment that Calgary could have got the pick and given the the better player, that is why I quoted it.  No they couldn't have /
 
Anything else you are mad at Tre about has nothing to do with your comment or my reply.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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