04-06-2021, 12:37 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by 8sPOT
Part of me wants to acquire as many 2022 picks as possible and somehow draft Shane Wright.
Nobody in this draft is even close to his level, and he's the type of player we desperately need.
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Even if we miss on Wright, getting Savoie or Lambert would be huge for the rebuild
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04-06-2021, 12:44 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8sPOT
Part of me wants to acquire as many 2022 picks as possible and somehow draft Shane Wright.
Nobody in this draft is even close to his level, and he's the type of player we desperately need.
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Hey, I'm right there with you. Sell everything that isn't nailed down for as many 2022 and 2023 1st rounders as possible. Just go all in. Three phenoms are available over those 2 drafts.
The 2022 draft also has Brad Lambert and Matthew Savoie. They are both considered future franchise players and would go 1st overall most years. The 2022 draft looks absolutely ridiculous actually. I would be willing to be Ottawa Senators expansion team bad to stock up on picks.
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04-06-2021, 12:49 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by New Era
Flames will pick an American player who will do everything in his power to not have to play in Canada. Book it.
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This is the way.
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04-06-2021, 12:50 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by IliketoPuck
This is the way.
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Just trade our 1st this year for a 1st next year.
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04-06-2021, 12:54 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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The Flames pick in next year's draft will be a to 3 the problem is another team will be using it. I can see management making a "swing for the fences" kind of deal for a player and it won't work and they still bottom out.
The Flames don't and never really have thought about the future, they do whatever they can to try to help the hear and now and it's never enough so they stay in that perpetual mediocre pile. It's like they have the mentality that draft picks and prospects are good but if we can be a little bit better than good (but still not good enough) we will give up whatever picks we need to!
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04-06-2021, 12:55 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Just trade our 1st this year for a 1st next year.
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lol the Flames will get a top 3 pick but another team takes a kid who ends up joining their team and helping them win the cup. The Flames turn a top 3 pick to a 32 overall pick.
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04-06-2021, 12:59 PM
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#167
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
It is rare. But I think the last top 10 first rounder to do that was Blake Wheeler? I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
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Wheeler was drafted (5th overall) by Phoenix, and refused to sign.
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04-06-2021, 01:11 PM
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#168
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First Line Centre
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With the crap shoot that this draft year is, I wouldn't be opposed to our high first being traded for mid-low firsts and extra kicks at the can.
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04-06-2021, 01:19 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
With the crap shoot that this draft year is, I wouldn't be opposed to our high first being traded for mid-low firsts and extra kicks at the can.
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this is almost 100% a terrible idea.
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04-06-2021, 01:23 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
With the crap shoot that this draft year is, I wouldn't be opposed to our high first being traded for mid-low firsts and extra kicks at the can.
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The whole "crap shoot" is being overblown.
The top-end of the draft is the top end of the draft. It's not like a kid who would have otherwise gone 1st overall is going to show up at 20th overall.
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04-06-2021, 01:26 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
With the crap shoot that this draft year is, I wouldn't be opposed to our high first being traded for mid-low firsts and extra kicks at the can.
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Yes, later round picks are valuable this year. But the Flames need elite players.
Not more kicks at the can.
The best way to get elite players is to draft high.
You're not going to find a superstar center in the 5th round. Brayden Point is the closest thing to this, and even he was a third round pick.
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04-06-2021, 01:45 PM
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#172
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Any concerns about Berniers being an American playing college?
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Originally Posted by New Era
Flames will pick an American player who will do everything in his power to not have to play in Canada. Book it.
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This is not at all a legitimate concern.
In the last 15-20 years every single US-borne player drafted in the first round out of US hockey by a Canadian team has signed his ELC and played for the team that drafted him.
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04-06-2021, 06:13 PM
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#173
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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I wish the NHL saw some of the crazy trades you see in NFL.
How about something like the Dolphins and 49'ers just did recently.
Dolphins traded their 3rd overall pick to the 49'ers for 12th overall, 2022 1st rd pick, and 2023 1st rd pick.
I would be all over that in the Flames case, as unrealistic as it is.
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04-06-2021, 07:24 PM
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#174
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#1 Goaltender
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Wrong thread... Delete pls
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04-07-2021, 07:57 AM
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#175
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Yeah this Bedard kid is effing ridiculous.
26 pts in his first 14 WHL games...at age 15.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1379645865917177860
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04-07-2021, 08:08 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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I didn’t really think there was someone that could surpass McDavid so quickly... If Bedard comes as advertised he could definitely do that. Can’t believe he isn’t even 16.
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04-07-2021, 09:02 AM
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#177
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Getting Bedard would be a dream, but I doubt the Flames will ever be bad enough to get him.
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04-07-2021, 10:33 AM
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#178
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#1 Goaltender
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2023, safe to say Bedard is going first overall. But if the Flames got 2nd would you gamble on Michkov? Wouldn't see him for a couple years but he's trending to be an Ovechkin-level talent
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04-07-2021, 10:33 AM
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#179
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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And so much could happen between now and the 2023 draft. Almost impossible to know who might be in contention for that pick (other than Buffalo).
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04-07-2021, 10:45 AM
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#180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
2023, safe to say Bedard is going first overall. But if the Flames got 2nd would you gamble on Michkov? Wouldn't see him for a couple years but he's trending to be an Ovechkin-level talent
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No doubt you take Michkov. IMO he has a legit shot to challenge Bedard over the next year. It will be a close race between the two. Of course, if they come out near equal teams will certainly take Bedard for the NA factor.
Edit: should also say Michkov needs to grow a few more inches to have a shot at 1. He's only 5'9 right now. But his numbers are better than Ovechkins at the same age, which is pretty stunning.
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