[PGT] We gotta fire the coach, oh wait and Tre better make some calls. Flames lose 5-3

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by meh

Sell like there's no tomorrow. Trade all draft picks for 2023 picks. Tank until then.
Its time to truly start from scratch.

They don't need to start from scratch.

The core needs to finally change. They had their chance and it's not working. I've been open for it to change since choking against Colorado. I understood giving it another shot last season but it should have changed this past offseason. Now there's no excuse to give it another chance.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

9.79 High Danger Corsi against per 60 in the same time frame which is the 10th fewest.

So they aren’t giving up high danger chances are more frequency, just aren’t getting a big save.

Which lines up with what I’ve seen.

I actually don’t think their defense has been that bad, but when they break down, boy do they break down. Every opportunity seems to be going in.

I agree that it would be nice to get a few more big saves but I think Markstrom is taking way too much heat from some fans and the media. To me it’s a case of “yes, he could be better”, but some fans are already suggesting the signing was a mistake or that he sucks and I think that’s totally unfair.

We get a goal from Gaudreau, Monahan, or Tkachuk in the first two periods and it changes the entire complexion of the game. On the list of problems with the Flames I think the goaltending is MAYBE middle of the pack. Our best forwards are getting clowned nightly.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

What fascinates me is that 1.0 LDSV% ranks fifth.

I had expected T-1st

Who is better?

I imagine it's sorted first by percentage, then by volume?

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

At some point the blame has to be put on the player himself.

That's true, but I wish he would have had 15 games on lindholms wing at some point.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

9.79 High Danger Corsi against per 60 in the same time frame which is the 10th fewest.

So they aren’t giving up high danger chances are more frequency, just aren’t getting a big save.

not all high dangers are created equal though

[meh]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I can't wait for Gaudreau to go Marc Savard on our asses after he leaves.

After all these years his best winger on his line was Ferland. Maybe Lindholm but he completely disappeared in the playoffs.

JG is no MS. Johnny is afraid out there. Marc was never afraid.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I really really want the centre in this draft Bernie or whatever. He will be a mix between drasatil and horvath and that works for a start. We aren't restarting with nothing .

[flamingred89]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He wanted a NMC. With the expansion draft coming up they were unwilling to do it and would have most likely lost Demko. Had there been no expansion draft they definitely would have re-signed him.

That makes sense. But still interesting that the Canucks wanted to roll the dice with the unproven Demko. Although I recall Demko’s series being all-time against the Knights. So the Canucks likely had that fresh in their mind.

Im sure the debate can roll on about who’s to blame, but it’s hard not to be concerned about Markstrom and his contract. He’s only had two seasons where he played 60 games or more. And in those seasons he has very pedestrian numbers(averaging a 2.75 and .912) So are we looking at a career average goalie who has injury issues? Or someone who parlayed a career year into a UFA contract?

[Timbo]

My biggest fear is Yanet will be post apex before we ever win again.

[Saqe]

What's the last +30 goaltender free agency signing that has worked out?


Bobrovsky has been pretty much a total disaster for Florida with one of the worst contracts in the league. Holtby has been bad and Markstrom looks like he's fallen off a cliff in the last month. Genuinely curious if this is actually a trend with these signings.

[DeluxeMoustache]

So Markstrom wasn’t too bad. There was a bad rebound leading to a goal

First goal, Spezza puts a quick shot inside the post
Second, the leading goal scorer in the league has time and space and no pressure
Third, Simmonds was reasonably contained by the D, he worked for it
Fourth, I understand the rebound but I don’t like it. (I miss Kipper where he gloved everything he could, and everything else went in the corner)
Fifth - well placed by Tavares, I haven’t had a good look to see if Markstrom saw it

I really don’t like the fourth. I have personally not been enamoured with Markstrom’s rebound placement for a while now.

And at the other end, Campbell was fortunate twice that his D stopped pucks at the line, but he got enough of them such that they as a team could keep it out

Then he had some 10 bell saves, like a nice glove, I think on Backlund, and then another on Tkachuk, that made a difference when it mattered.

So not a classic goaltenders’ duel, but the Flames had the second best goalie tonight.

Again

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I really really want the centre in this draft Bernie or whatever. He will be a mix between drasatil and horvath and that works for a start. We aren't restarting with nothing .

With the 5th overall pick the Calgary Flames are proud to select

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by dino7c

With the 5th overall pick the Calgary Flames are proud to select

What a draft "weekend"

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He wanted a NMC. With the expansion draft coming up they were unwilling to do it and would have most likely lost Demko. Had there been no expansion draft they definitely would have re-signed him.

Meanwhile, the Flames let Talbot walk and he has 92.4% on the season, is on a team-friendly contract, and has a career 91.6%.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I imagine it's sorted first by percentage, then by volume?

Maybe, I suppose that would make sense

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Meanwhile, the Flames let Talbot walk and he has 92.4% on the season, is on a team-friendly contract, and has a career 91.6%.

You honestly think Talbot would have those numbers here? Talbot had a disaster of a season last time he played behind a disaster of a team too

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

not all high dangers are created equal though

There is no evidence IMO that the Flames are giving up some magical high quality chances against that can’t be saved.

Every team has break downs and gives up chances, They just aren’t getting any big saves.

[Goriders]

They scored more than 2 goals tonight.

So there’s that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

There is no evidence IMO that the Flames are giving up some magical high quality chances against that can’t be saved.

Every team has break downs and gives up chances, They just aren’t getting any big saves.

He can be better sure but my eyes are the evidence. Most teams clear the front of the net for one.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

There is no evidence IMO that the Flames are giving up some magical high quality chances against that can’t be saved.

Every team has break downs and gives up chances, They just aren’t getting any big saves.

The metrics are based on situation (shot location and context), but do not include the time and space or shot location

I see sub optimal rebound placement as a problem for Markstrom, but also a lot of shooters given open lanes, time and space to place their shots