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			People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:08 PM
			
			
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				Lucic got away with a clear trip on that forecheck. 
			
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Even the refs wanted the Flames to have a fighting chance and let it go.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:09 PM
			
			
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				Mask usage by NHL coaches is tragically hilarious. 
			
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At least Sutter is wearing a proper mask. I wasn’t sure what he was wearing for the first few games
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:09 PM
			
			
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			I thought that was the third period. I don't know how to feel.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-05-2021, 10:09 PM
			
			
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			Really hoping we trade more than them. 
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			04-05-2021, 10:11 PM
			
			
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				People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is. 
			
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You aren’t wrong.
 
...and it goes to show just how awful Sean Monahan is that he’s the focus of most of our crap flinging. For as bad as Johnny has been, Monahan has been worse.
 
Those are the two players who have vanished year after year in the playoffs, yet we doubled and tripled down on building around them. This is what falling in love with your own players looks like from a management perspective.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:11 PM
			
			
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				People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is. 
			
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I've been doing this all game. Picking a player and just watching them. Tkachuk is invisible, but makes a point of finishing checks. Johnny goes for the puck intitially, but if he doesn't get it, that's it. Dube is frustrated that the play dies when he passes to a teammate. Lucic has had a good game.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-05-2021, 10:11 PM
			
			
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				People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is. 
			
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The difference in his play when he actually tries for a shift is pretty stark - he still can go when he wants.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:11 PM
			
			
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				At least Sutter is wearing a proper mask. I wasn’t sure what he was wearing for the first few games 
			
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Agreed it looked like half of a bra or something.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:12 PM
			
			
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				You aren’t wrong. 
 
...and it goes to show just how awful Sean Monahan is that he’s the focus of most of our crap flinging. For as bad as Johnny has been, Monahan has been worse. 
 
Those are the two players who have vanished year after year in the playoffs, yet we doubled and tripled down on building around them. This is what falling in love with your own players looks like from a management perspective. 
			
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I am one of those that believe that Monahan is playing injured. They should get him fixed up and ready for next season. Keeping him in there, playing at 70% and courting more injury is just stupid.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-05-2021, 10:13 PM
			
			
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				People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is. 
			
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 He’s playing with the two biggest plugs on the team I’d check out too. Most skilled guy but can’t carry a line he needs some help.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:13 PM
			
			
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			...remember when we could have traded Regehr for Spezza? Oh, those were the days.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:13 PM
			
			
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				You aren’t wrong. 
 
...and it goes to show just how awful Sean Monahan is that he’s the focus of most of our crap flinging. For as bad as Johnny has been, Monahan has been worse. 
 
Those are the two players who have vanished year after year in the playoffs, yet we doubled and tripled down on building around them. This is what falling in love with your own players looks like from a management perspective. 
			
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Thing is, I’m not questioning Monahan’s effort or his attempt to play what Sutter is clearly asking.  Something else is going on with him.  With Gaudreau, it’s all about lack of effort.  Which to me is a bigger black mark.  I’m wondering if he’s pulling a “Carter in Columbus”.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:15 PM
			
			
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				People should watch Gaudreau and just Gaudreau for an entire shift. Crazy how lazy, disinterested and selfish he is. 
			
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They should trade Monahan and Tkachuk before they deal Gaudreau. Maybe try playing him with players who don't suck ass like Ritchie and/or Bennett and see what happens.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I’m genuinely curious what Sutter is up to 
 
Is he tanking? Is he sending a strong message to the core? Does he just straight up hate the way Treliving built a team? 
 
Because there is no way he actually thinks Ritchie/Monahan/Johnny is the answer
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:16 PM
			
			
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				He’s playing with the two biggest plugs on the team I’d check out too. Most skilled guy but can’t carry a line he needs some help. 
			
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He’s a professional making over $6MM/year. This isn’t Peewee 6. He can try or sit out. Nobody cares about Gaudreau anymore. Or should. His legacy is lazy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:16 PM
			
			
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				They should trade Monahan and Tkachuk before they deal Gaudreau. Maybe try playing him with players who don't suck ass like Ritchie, Monahan and/or Bennett and see what happens. 
			
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fyp.
 
This is the problem though - the Flames don’t have anyone good to play with Gaudreau at this stage...so may as well just bail on him as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:18 PM
			
			
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				Thing is, I’m not questioning Monahan’s effort or his attempt to play what Sutter is clearly asking.  Something else is going on with him.  With Gaudreau, it’s all about lack of effort.  Which to me is a bigger black mark.  I’m wondering if he’s pulling a “Carter in Columbus”. 
			
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They should call the bluff and healthy scratch him for the rest of the contract.
 
Yes I’m kidding, kinda. Need to send a message though dude is a gigantic prima donna.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 10:19 PM
			
			
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				I’m convinced what we are seeing is Darryl attempting to show the star players they don’t run the team and Treliving has essentially been neutered in terms of decision making power  
 
I think Sutter hates the roster and might be the only coach in the league that reports to the owner 
			
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			04-05-2021, 10:21 PM
			
			
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			Matt Stajan, obviously great guy, but he's got a good media personality just like Kesler. Sportsnet actually getting some good hockey players with personality it seems.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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