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				Yeah, they won four straight out of the gate. Since then they have been 9-12-10. They have four wins in their last ten, and are presently down 1-0 in Carolina while being outshot 29-16 through two. 
 
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Also not with this Brazil variant that apparently just drags you out back and has its way with you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-04-2021, 08:48 PM
			
			
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			I'll wait for more info...reporting doesn't seem all that reliable... I've heard everything from 20 guys on their death beds to 16 guys with mild symptoms
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-04-2021, 09:11 PM
			
			
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				I'll wait for more info...reporting doesn't seem all that reliable... I've heard everything from 20 guys on their death beds to 16 guys with mild symptoms 
			
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Which reporters have said death beds?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2021, 09:21 PM
			
			
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				Which reporters have said death beds? 
			
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No one, but he's being hyperbolic.
 
Dreger has implied that many players are in really really bad shape.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-04-2021, 09:34 PM
			
			
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			04-04-2021, 09:42 PM
			
			
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				Curious about this also. I think the organization gets exemption to call up unlimited minor leaguer players before you give the berth to another team. 
			
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I wonder about coaches, trainers, etc.  
 
Bringing in lots of call ups from presumably a few different locations also doesn't sound like a great idea.
 
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				Yeah, they won four straight out of the gate. Since then they have been 9-12-10. They have four wins in their last ten, and are presently down 1-0 in Carolina while being outshot 29-16 through two. 
 
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Those first 4 were against NAS (who were pretty bad until recently) and DET.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2021, 10:04 PM
			
			
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			04-05-2021, 10:01 AM
			
			
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				You do know we only had 36  confirmed cases in canada . Most developed countries are seeing more than a 90%+ decrease in influenza.  
More people took the flu vaccine this year and combined with covid restrictions  . 
 
It's ironic that people keep pushing "It's  just like the flu"  yet covid keeps pushing hard and influenza has been virtually eliminated. 
			
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This is not my belief or opinion, but the rebuttal you would get from the non-believers is similar to:
 
They reported some flu cases because they have to. There were a lot more flu cases they put under the COVID bucket to keep us scared and control us. Some even died from the flu that were reported as COVID deaths.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 11:05 AM
			
			
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				This is not my belief or opinion, but the rebuttal you would get from the non-believers is similar to: 
 
They reported some flu cases because they have to. There were a lot more flu cases they put under the COVID bucket to keep us scared and control us. Some even died from the flu that were reported as COVID deaths. 
			
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Yeah, it couldn't possibly be all of these pandemic measures and safety precautions we've been following as a society for the last year, most of which were specifically designed to combat the most likely epidemic, a variant of flu.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 01:54 PM
			
			
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				As team owner, GM and coach of the Red Deer Rebels, Brent Sutter has lost plenty of sleep worrying about protecting his players from COVID-19. 
 
You can only imagine how much harder it was to learn his son, Vancouver Canucks forward Brandon, has it. 
 
“We FaceTimed last night and he was pretty down and out, feeling pretty sick,” said Sutter via telephone. “Brandon has tested positive and he’s got symptoms — body aches, headaches, chills — just like you have the flu. I guess each guy is different in terms of how it affects you, especially with this Brazilian variant. For younger people to get this sick, it’s scary.” 
 
Scarier still is not knowing if Brandon passed it on to his family before he joined the list of Canucks on the NHL’s COVID Protocol List, which is now 16 players long. 
 
“His wife is pregnant and they have a two-year-old and three-year-old — he’s obviously concerned about them,” said Sutter. 
 
“He wants to make sure they can stay away from this. He’s moved into the basement of his house so he can be separated from them. He’s doing what he’s supposed to be doing. They were just told to get into quarantine and have the wife and kids go down to the rink to get tested every day. There’s a lot to this, what the families have to do now. We’re keeping fingers crossed.”
			
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			04-05-2021, 02:48 PM
			
			
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				What happens when you don't expose people to viruses that we have been exposed to for years? You're disrupting the natural immunity to a yearly pandemic. It's gonna come back 10 fold next year or sooner. Unless we have a larger population take the flu vaccine. I strongly believe will have record high or higher than normal deaths from the next flu.  
 
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Perhaps this post will make me look stupid but...
 
This has to be the stupidest post in this thread.
 
There is less cases of the flue this year, so next year... we should see an above average number of deaths?
 
Flu travels through society, less people have it, means less transmission, less mutation chances, less cases next year. We have 1,000's of years of evolution we have fought viruses, and all of us have a lifetime as well, your argument is missing one flu season puts at .... a higher risk?
 
Really? 
You're spreading dangerous really horrible "opinions" in my view, but I may also be grumpy from lack of coffee. Sorry if so.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 03:46 PM
			
			
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You're spreading dangerous really horrible "opinions" in my view 
			
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Not only your view, that's definitely what that poster was doing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 04:20 PM
			
			
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			Looks like Oilers game vs Sens moved from April 9 to April 8 and Flames game vs Oilers moved from May 7th to April 10
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-05-2021, 04:33 PM
			
			
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				Looks like Oilers game vs Sens moved from April 9 to April 8 and Flames game vs Oilers moved from May 7th to April 10 
			
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Any source on that?
 
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			04-05-2021, 04:43 PM
			
			
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				Not only your view, that's definitely what that poster was doing. 
			
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This was my favourite part. 
 
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				When you slow or stop the spread of a virus, like the common cold or flu, you can't predict the following strain. That's not a hunch. It will spread faster and probably be closer to a 2018 flu season in which actually had a very high lethality rate. The vaccine had a 40% effective rate.  
 
My point is, if we don't have enough to study the current strain, we won't have a accurate vaccine.  
 
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			04-05-2021, 04:54 PM
			
			
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			If people who are able, keep getting flu shots, the lack of exposure theory is a moot point. 
 
I actually hope that flu shots, and if possible, corona virus vaccines, are pushed really hard in the future.  I would even say mandatory for people that can get them, but I know making things mandatory can create public resistance to the point it is detrimental.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-05-2021, 05:25 PM
			
			
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				No one, but he's being hyperbolic. 
 
 
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That's always helpful at times like this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2021, 04:37 PM
			
			
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				I know a girl who was at a house party at Virtanen's place the Thursday before last, and other players were there as well.  
 
These guys are not following the rules and the consequences could kill people. 
			
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You can now add Virtanen to the COVID list:
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			04-07-2021, 01:16 PM
			
			
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			04-07-2021, 01:27 PM
			
			
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				What happens when you don't expose people to viruses that we have been exposed to for years? You're disrupting the natural immunity to a yearly pandemic. It's gonna come back 10 fold next year or sooner. Unless we have a larger population take the flu vaccine. I strongly believe will have record high or higher than normal deaths from the next flu.  
 
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People that have been wiped out by COVID include all of those that are vulnerable to the flu.
 
Our vulnerable population has been culled to an extent we haven't seen in quite some time. When this happens with particularly bad flu seasons, deaths are decreased in the following years because there are less likely candidates to die.
 
It should be expected that in the event of a successful vaccination campaign that leads to a sharp end to COVID that the post pandemic death rate will be abnormally low for a few years.
 
What's especially crazy about all of this, is we just came off of an extremely bad flu year in 2018, and this damage is still being done.
 
The world will be left with more "healthy" people on average than we've seen in a very long time. They aren't going to be dropping dead of the flu like crazy for the next few years unless lingering symptoms in COVID survivors make a ton of people vulnerable to future infections.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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