[GT] Flames vs Jets

[Red]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Imagine of Markstrom was half the goalie Hellebuyck is.

The Flames would be golden

Right because they are so good at scoring on their chances.

[blender]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you have to look at the quality...and lets get real here its 3 goals

zero bad goals

I won't get after Markstrom too hard as you are right about the quality, but he hasn't been as good as Hellebyuk tonight, and he's not playing as well as Mike Smith this season, so he's open to criticism no matter what.

[bubbsy]

Gnite CP.

I think this is it as far as cheering for wins. I'm back on the train of cheering for losses till the dumbass gm that's put together this masterpiece is kicked to the curb.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Including tonight, Markstrom has allowed 3+ goals in 10 of his last 14 starts.

I’m willing to bet that the vast majority of those goals are due to defensive breakdowns from the turds in front of him. Goals against is a team stat as much as it is a goaltending stat.

I’m sorry but I just can’t get on board with ragging on the goaltending this year. Both goalies have been fine. The team in front of them has not.

[ThisIsAnOutrage]

Originally Posted by TheChief

Injury is just another word for I suck and am on a massive decline. Ever notice the guy is injured every single year year after year.

I didn't say he ever had to come back.

[kukkudo]

Markstrom might of peaked last year. Canucks rode him pretty hard the last few years. Not blaming him tonight just overall this season he’s been pretty meh.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Do you think Hellebuyck hasn't made a quality save, or had better rebound control?

That doesn't mean Markstrom has been bad

do you think the Jets aren't executing better than the Flames? Compare the Jets 2 on 1 to the Flames 2 on 1

[Burning Beard]

Monahan and Tkachuk are not good. What is up with these two? If Tkachuk keeps playing this poorly I hope they consider trading him. This feels like more than a slump somehow.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah because they score so many goals

Originally Posted by Red

Right because they are so good at scoring on their chances.

Hey, I didn't say the Flames would be the team to beat, I just said they'd be golden.

They have many issues and Markstrom is currently one of them.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Imagine of Markstrom was half the goalie Hellebuyck is.

The Flames would be golden

Flames starting goalie save percentages in the past 8 years

2021 - going into tonight .904 but will drop a bit after tonight
2020 - .907
2019 - .911
2018 - .916
2017 - .910
2016 - .909
2015 - .917
2014 - .911

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I’m willing to bet that the vast majority of those goals are due to defensive breakdowns from the turds in front of him. Goals against is a team stat as much as it is a goaltending stat.

I’m sorry but I just can’t get on board with ragging on the goaltending this year. Both goalies have been fine. The team in front of them has not.

There were plenty of defensive breakdowns early in the season too, but Markstrom was making the tough saves his team needed him to make.

Lately he hasn't been making those tough saves.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

That doesn't mean Markstrom has been bad1

No one said markstrom has been "bad"

But he hasn't been "good".

He hasn't been the better goalie in a game in a long time.

[Freddy]

Tkachuk has been terrible today, he is single handedly killing any momentum that he comes near.

[Red]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Monahan is a decent 3rd liner.

After the Flames beat the Oil 6-4 early on, I called out Monahan for being a bad top C. I was roasted here lol.

I am gonna disagree with you. Monahan is not a 3rd liner. He is a boederline NHLer right now. His only skill is gone. Completely useless.

Roast away.

[The Boy Wonder]

Tkachuk continues to prove that his agent did a masterful job with that contract. Flames now either trade him or have to pay him $9m per year...

Just brutal

[Burning Beard]

The difference I see it so far is that when Winnipeg has an odd man rush their top players capitalize on it. For us it's Gadreau to Monahan who bobbles the puck. Or Tkachuk to Lindholm who is covered by 2 guys and loses the puck for a goal the other way.

[timbit]

Which players have been the dominant forces in the game?

Do the Flames have ONE in the top 6?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Imagine of Markstrom was half the goalie Hellebuyck is.

The Flames would be golden

I'm not watching but it wouldn't matter how better Markstrom played if the team is only scoring a goal or two a game. You can't expect a shutout or one goal allowed every night.

Other teams are burying their chances. The Flames are finding ways to screw them up or shoot it right at the goalie.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

No one said markstrom has been "bad"

But he hasn't been "good".

He hasn't been the better goalie in a game in a long time.

if you are going to quote me quote the whole post without editing please

Jets are executing on the Flames mistakes...again compare the 2 on 1s the teams recently had. Jets are executing far better.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Tkachuk has been terrible today, he is single handedly killing any momentum that he comes near.

I don’t think Tkachuk has had a good game this season has he?

He’s been awful. Like, maybe a toss up between him and Nordstrom?