[PGT] Chucky scores! FLAMES...lose 3-2 to Jets.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Two minutes of fun. 58 minutes of disappointment.

This has gone on so long, I’ve forgotten what disappointment is.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by New Era

Nope. Just have to wait for the change cycle. I hated the Young Guns and Ron Bremner era. Ken King came along and started positive change. The same thing will happen again. It will just take time. This team is going to bottom out in the next year to year and a half and a new direction will develop. All part of the cycle. Until then, just have to tough it out and deal with the absolute #### product being peddled and the incompetence of management.

The Flames tried poaching from Arizona to build a winner. You got to think they will take a long look at Jason Botterill as GM if they replace Brad.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Young Guns

It’s actually laughable watching Giordano try to break out on the power play. It’s the most awkward thing when he turns and try’s to find Johnny. Everyone stops skating and stands at attention while we feed it back to Gaudreau. Let’s play a game of paddy cake while we wait for him to catch up. Only to loose the puck trying to dangle through 4 guys waiting at there blue line.

How do you score goals when you can’t get the puck anywhere near the front of the net. Just keep riming it around the boards until a d-man has a chance to shoot the puck into someone’s legs.

And why does every shot they take have to be at the goalies head? Keep the puck low where the goalie can’t see it. Get some rebounds and unlucky bounces off guys legs. Stop aiming for the nose bleeds.

Also like to point out that Cassie said “ no question about it” 11 times during the game. Come up with some new material already!

The funny thing is - the power play entry was much improved from the previous games where they didn’t bump it back. They gained the zone quite well last night - they just didn’t do anything once inside the zone.

[bubbsy]

My biggest take away from yesterday :

Tkachuk hasn't looked like last nite all season,

Monahan has lost any and all puck confidence. He is basically gauranteed to flub the play if gets the puck anywhere near the offensive slot.

Team is just not feeling it and individuals trying to do too much leading to dumbass play (Andersson turnover right to the front of the net, markstrom penalty are obvious examples)

Markstrom hasn't been a major source of concern, but he hasn't been providing elite, upper echelon goaltending since wk2 of the season.

Lindholm, love a lot of what he does,especially at that contract, but we bash so much of the offensive talent on this team, yet Lindholm gets a pass ( likely because of his strong play in Other facets of the game). A lot of nights he's just as much as a offensive, play driving void as #13, #23, #19, #11.

[Toonage]

^^ Ownership green lit Sutter, IMO they won't hire a GM without knowing he'll work well with Darryl. Or even seek Darryl's approval.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

My biggest take away from yesterday :

Tkachuk hasn't looked like last nite all season,

Monahan has lost any and all puck confidence. He is basically gauranteed to flub the play if gets the puck anywhere near the offensive slot.

Team is just not feeling it and individuals trying to do too much leading to dumbass play (Andersson turnover right to the front of the net, markstrom penalty are obvious examples)

Markstrom hasn't been a major source of concern, but he hasn't been providing elite, upper echelon goaltending since wk2 of the season.

Lindholm, love a lot of what he does,especially at that contract, but we bash so much of the offensive talent on this team, yet Lindholm gets a pass ( likely because of his strong play in Other facets of the game). A lot of nights he's just as much as a offensive, play driving void as #13, #23, #19, #11.

Agree with almost of that. One of Tkachuk’s better games (still not vintage though). Monahan - I don’t mind his game at all until, like you said, it’s time to score and then he blows it. Lindholm - you are right, he seems to get a pass. Last night he was invisible, which is especially odd since he was put with Gaudreau.

Speaking of Gaudreau, maybe they should pay someone to smack him before each shift. His best shift came soon after he got nailed. Then he disappeared again.

I don’t know if I can agree about Markstrom. He’s made plenty of great saves, but at one or two goals per game, he needs a shutout every night. And the defensive miscues have been massive in front of him.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by New Era

Another result of dinosaur hockey. Flames continue to play the game around the boards, rarely moving the puck more than 10 feet from the runner. Meanwhile the other 75% of the ice is where the action takes place and where the scoring happens.

Love the Calgary Flames but hate everything about this team. From the front office, to the coaching staff, to the players, to the prospects, to the goal song. Can't wait for change.

We have a goal song?

[CalgaryFan1988]

I agree, I don't understand how Lindholm (and even Andersson) escape criticism that some of the other players get.

[BigFlameDog]

The only real question I have is what the heck did Pionk think was going to happen there? There should have been no extra penalty just based on him being dumb.

But in truth, the moment he brought his stick up to engage it should have been both or neither of them on the box.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

The only real question I have is what the heck did Pionk think was going to happen there? There should have been no extra penalty just based on him being dumb.

But in truth, the moment he brought his stick up to engage it should have been both or neither of them on the box.

Yeah I don't understand players who get in Looches face then are surprised to get punched in the head. The same kind of idiots who try to get close to bears in national parks.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by hurtin_albertan

I can’t believe how bad Monahan is. He’s gone from top line center perennial 30 goal scorer to “maybe he’ll catch on in Europe”. I’ve never seen a +6’ +200 lb center play as soft as he does. Such a dud of a pick.

Absolutely. You look at a guy like Ryan and realize if Monny played a little more like him he'd be way better off. He just seems to be able to deke and stick handle where Sean always flubs it to the opposition. Sean certainly is no more punishing physically than Ryan at all and don't get me started about reaction time.
With Backlund or Lindholm I feel their mediocrity stems from having given up, as they see the outlook of the team going forward, and like us all, are somewhat depressed. Whereas Sean's mediocrity is all home grown. At the least you could say he's the victim of too high expectations of previous years, much like the team itself.
(in regards to his current play not so much his pick success)

[ElPresidenti]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I agree, I don't understand how Lindholm (and even Andersson) escape criticism that some of the other players get.

Throw Mangiapane into that mix...1 goal and a minus 7 in his last 13 games. On top of that, I've never seen anyone fall on his butt so much in a game. There was a point in the game last night when trying to get the puck out of our end along the boards, he fell on the ice 3 times within a couple seconds...

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by hurtin_albertan

I can’t believe how bad Monahan is. He’s gone from top line center perennial 30 goal scorer to “maybe he’ll catch on in Europe”. I’ve never seen a +6’ +200 lb center play as soft as he does. Such a dud of a pick.

Dud of a pick?

He has the most goals in his draft class. How can that be a dud at pick #6?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

The only real question I have is what the heck did Pionk think was going to happen there? There should have been no extra penalty just based on him being dumb.

But in truth, the moment he brought his stick up to engage it should have been both or neither of them on the box.

It looks like both Pionk and Lucic brought their sticks up for light cross checks. Then Lucic punched him in the face. Credit Pionk for sucking Lucic into any extra penalty which resulted in the game winning goal.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Dud of a pick?

He has the most goals in his draft class. How can that be a dud at pick #6?

Monny was not a dud of a pick. The problem is that Monny is getting worse each year and his value is decreasing as well. I think injuries is playing a big part of that.


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[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Yeah I don't understand players who get in Looches face then are surprised to get punched in the head. The same kind of idiots who try to get close to bears in national parks.

Yeah and my opinion is if a player engages physically they are looking for it and it should be 2 mins each or none.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Yeah and my opinion is if a player engages physically they are looking for it and it should be 2 mins each or none.

Generally yes, except one was a very light engagement, the other was a punch to the face. Lucic was sucked in for sure, he should know better.


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[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I agree, I don't understand how Lindholm (and even Andersson) escape criticism that some of the other players get.

They both look like crap as well.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

It looks like both Pionk and Lucic brought their sticks up for light cross checks. Then Lucic punched him in the face. Credit Pionk for sucking Lucic into any extra penalty which resulted in the game winning goal.


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Well, yea, but it’s still stupid on Pionk’s part. If Lucic hits him a little harder it could last in brain damage and lifetime of concussion problems. I doubt he expected a punch to the face.

Yea, he was smart though, lol. Maybe that’s what the Flames are missing, a bunch of dimwits like Pionk.