[Game Takes] Jets 3 Flames 2

[Bingo]

Game Takes: Jets 3 Flames 2

- Flames work hard, but play their perimeter style again
- Calgary narrows the game with the goalie pulled to make it interesting
- Sutter doesn't pull punches in the post game media access

[Mr.Coffee]

You thought the Flames worked hard?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

You thought the Flames worked hard?

I think they’ve worked hard every game for Sutter, but the effort is futile when all they’re doing is playing on the “easy” ice. Every single player on the roster needs to start going to the front of the net. I think the only player that spent any extended period of time in front of the net tonight was Tkachuk.

[Mr.Coffee]

Wow. Not a chance. Tonight’s effort was bad. Very bad actually. It was like a pouty kid feeling sorry for himself all over the ice until 5 mins left. Except it was the entire team.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I haven’t sought out the post game presser, so thank you for pulling this out:

“Most of our scoring chances came off the forecheck, when you don’t have chances off the rush you’re not moving the puck fast enough and you’re not moving fast enough”


This is relieving to hear as I believe it contrasts with Brent’s “we are not a team who scores off the rush”. Seems like Darryl is open to scoring off the rush, thank goodness

Still has to happen, but glad to hear

[ricardodw]

Your Fancy Stats section "Calgary carried the play territorially" does not pass the eye test.

The Jets dominated the game from start to finish with the Flames making a push in the last 3 minutes.

Markstrom was the best player on the Flames and any points they would have gotten would be considered stolen.

Hockey Stats Cards or this game
have it as one of the most dominated games of the year.

The Jets had 4 players have great games and 6 players have good games. The Flames had Tkachuk as the lone player to have a good game.

The Flames had 5 players starting with worst to least bad

Gaudreau
Andersson
Giordano
Mangiapane
Tanev

Have outright bad games and another 5 have poor games.

The Jets had no player having a poor or bad game.

[Boblobla]

The Rasmus/Gio combo needs to go. They are constantly under water.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

You thought the Flames worked hard?

Yes sir.

I don't see a lazy team. I see a perimeter team.

Sutter last night even mentioned a dopey start and mental toughness needed to start on time.

I think some players lack some of the hutzpa to go to the tough areas, but additionally I think the Flames lack the players to create something by driving the play.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Your Fancy Stats section "Calgary carried the play territorially" does not pass the eye test.

The Jets dominated the game from start to finish with the Flames making a push in the last 3 minutes.

Markstrom was the best player on the Flames and any points they would have gotten would be considered stolen.

Hockey Stats Cards or this game
have it as one of the most dominated games of the year.

The Jets had 4 players have great games and 6 players have good games. The Flames had Tkachuk as the lone player to have a good game.

The Flames had 5 players starting with worst to least bad

Gaudreau
Andersson
Giordano
Mangiapane
Tanev

Have outright bad games and another 5 have poor games.

The Jets had no player having a poor or bad game.

I said that yes.

But I also said they were out played when it came to scoring chances and expected goal splits which you left out.

Both are true.

When you have 55% of the shot attempts in all three periods you're controlling the puck and creating shot attempts, but you're not that dangerous and for the third straight game you lose.

[Wastedyouth]

The team is broken.

No coach is going to fix what's going on with the Flames, in my opinion.

Unfortunately signing Markstrom to 6x6 precludes the team from having the guts to do a complete rebuild. Which honestly they need.

They don't have a single prospect in the pipeline with the pedigree to be a difference maker in the NHL. They need more assets and less passengers. Because this is a team full of mid level talent and no game breaker among them.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

The team is broken.

No coach is going to fix what's going on with the Flames, in my opinion.

Unfortunately signing Markstrom to 6x6 precludes the team from having the guts to do a complete rebuild. Which honestly they need.

They don't have a single prospect in the pipeline with the pedigree to be a difference maker in the NHL. They need more assets and less passengers. Because this is a team full of mid level talent and no game breaker among them.

If they were other teams draft picks Zary and Pelltier would be pretty highly thought of.

I think it would be best for the Flames if Gio were "rested" with a minor injury. If he was traded to a playoff bound team I am pretty sure he would not be considered their #1 minute eating D-man.

It would be good to have Valimaki forced into a more important role that is hard to do when the legend that is Gio need to be respected with 20+ minutes a game. Last year they kept Valimaki out of the playoffs so they wouldn't have to protect him in the expansion draft. Would he have to be protected if he were eligible this year? If you think that Seattle would pick him up after his 2020-21 year then he would still be considered a very high difference maker prospect.

Also it would be good to find out if Andersson is the real deal or if he peaked as a 22 year old.

Petrovic might be a solid Sutter d-man at the NHL level.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I said that yes.

But I also said they were out played when it came to scoring chances and expected goal splits which you left out.

Both are true.

When you have 55% of the shot attempts in all three periods you're controlling the puck and creating shot attempts, but you're not that dangerous and for the third straight game you lose.

Is shot attempts a good indication of controlling the play or just the inability to get the puck to the net? 22 blocks by the Jets?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Is shot attempts a good indication of controlling the play or just the inability to get the puck to the net? 22 blocks by the Jets?

Shot attempts is exactly as I said territorial advantage, that doesn't come with much by way of scoring chances, and with that often a loss.

Calgary had lots of zone time but didn't do much with it.

Winnipeg was the more dangerous team all night in how they made use of their zone time, and their counter transition game.

The Jets did a great job of blocking shots for sure, but I think Calgary's lack of offensive skill didn't help much either.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

The team is broken.

No coach is going to fix what's going on with the Flames, in my opinion.

Unfortunately signing Markstrom to 6x6 precludes the team from having the guts to do a complete rebuild. Which honestly they need.

They don't have a single prospect in the pipeline with the pedigree to be a difference maker in the NHL. They need more assets and less passengers. Because this is a team full of mid level talent and no game breaker among them.

Core group of forwards within the Flames need a shakeup

Its a problem and has been a problem for awhile now

GM has to make a change, however its likely in the offseason