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Old 03-26-2021, 02:10 PM   #101
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Are those homes on the Suez Canal? Do they go for a premium? Can you waterski in the canal?
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:14 PM   #102
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Are those homes on the Suez Canal? Do they go for a premium? Can you waterski in the canal?
You can if you have a carton of Marlies.
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:53 PM   #103
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I read that one major problem with offloading containers is that you'd have to do it evenly to keep the weight distributed. If they just removed the ones they can reach near the bow and stern the middle part would become too heavy and break the hull. The bow and stern are totally grounded. So cranes and helicopters working together? Should be fine. But I guess they're dredging too. What a mess.

There's been some hilarious memes about all this on a positive note.

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Old 03-26-2021, 03:11 PM   #104
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You've laughed at the stuck boat. You've seen the meme's. Now play the game!


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Can you do as well at freeing the boat as the Suez canal crew is doing? Find out!
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Wanted the "bomb it" button to be a real thing in that game.
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Old 03-26-2021, 03:51 PM   #107
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Before you start wondering "well why aren't they doing this and that", I think it's good to consider the scale of the situation.

That thing weights upwards of 200.000 tons. It ran to ground with enough momentum to wedge it about 15 metres into sand and lift the front of the ship up at least a meter (or maybe several meters, it's hard to say from the pictures). To say it will take a lot of power to move that thing is putting it very mildly

There's only about 9 metres of water under the ship at the deepest spot. Even if you did try to sink it, the water would reach maybe halfway up the side of the ship. Plus obviously you can't sink a ship that's already partially resting on the sand.

There are 10-20.000 containers on board with no cranes around or any other supporting infrastructure. It takes around 2 days to unload these things in the best of conditions. Did I mention sand? The shores are made of sand.

Possibly the least interesting, but still somewhat interesting, part is the value of the cargo, which is estimated to be maybe around 100M, although could be significantly more or less depending on what exactly it happens to be. The ship itself is worth about 170M and it's brand new, so there's going to be an attempt to get it out mostly unharmed. (Although this probably isn't much of an issue anyway; the ship is so large and there's so many containers that it's obviously optimal if you can just get the ship loose, at least enough so that you could drag it back to the nearest dock which is just at the end of the canal.)

So no rush in thinking of clever memes, the (No Effs) Ever Given is likely to be right where it is for a good while

(My guess is the effort is going to be a combination of lifting some containers off the front of the ship with cranes from the shore, some digging and a lot of tow boats.)

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Might look at using helicopters to take come containers off the front of the boat.
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Old 03-26-2021, 04:12 PM   #109
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Why don't they just build a big circuler containment around it (like a big kiddie pool, possibly a stronger material) and just float it up a bit.
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Might look at using helicopters to take come containers off the front of the boat.
True, that's one way to move some stuff. Not a fast way, but any bit helps.

There's more sandstorms expected in the area though, so weather is going to be another issue.
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Old 03-26-2021, 04:17 PM   #111
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Why don't they just build a big circuler containment around it (like a big kiddie pool, possibly a stronger material) and just float it up a bit.
Well, scale is an issue here, that's a really big boat, but honestly no idea.

I just hope someone sets up a good quality live feed of the operation
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Old 03-27-2021, 02:17 AM   #112
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They haven't got it out yet? What an embarrassment for them. Being plugged up like that for days.
You think this delay is bad... just wait until the lawyers get involved when somebody suez.
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Old 03-27-2021, 03:41 AM   #113
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FFS. Anybody know if ships from Shanghai enroute to Vancouver go through the Suez? I know nothing about this ####.

My ship is expected in Vancouver April 11...if it did go through the Suez maybe it's already through.
If a ship travels from Shanghai to Vancouver thru the Suez Canal it needs a new captain!
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Put me in the thinking this was a constipation thread group. Didn’t know a Suez thread existed until one with a proper title came along.

Also Sliver probably:

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https://www.aerotime.aero/27542-Coul...annel-blockage

In short, helicopters probably couldn't do much.

No helicopter in the world can lift a fully loaded container, and while not all of them are going to be fully loaded, since the Ever Given doesn't have it's own cranes to move containers around, its very limited what could be done that way. There's also a lot of risk involved.

Unless the lighter containers tend to be at the top I guess?

Floating cranes do exist, and probably heading that way right now, but they're very slow.
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Put me in the thinking this was a constipation thread group. Didn’t know a Suez thread existed until one with a proper title came along.

Also Sliver probably:

The most hilarious part of that image is that the person who made it thinks planes need to fly around land for some reason.
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The most hilarious part of that image is that the person who made it thinks planes need to fly around land for some reason.
Ughhh... the blue part is clearly the sky.
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Billy Joel's song has had some increased play on the radio as there's trouble in the Suez!





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Old 03-27-2021, 07:47 AM   #119
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Put me in the thinking this was a constipation thread group. Didn’t know a Suez thread existed until one with a proper title came along.

Also Sliver probably:

Well, if you watch Beyond the Curve, I think you’ll see how this all makes complete sense!
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Old 03-27-2021, 08:19 AM   #120
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New plan to use the tide to help the ship float again.
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