Mic'd up referee admits to intentionally trying to call penalty against Nashville

[BarDown]

Got to love Nigel Owens.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

I feel a whole lot of nothing will come from this. But if there is some sort of reform, I really hope they take away the NBA style of preferential treatment for star players. Nothing infuriates me more than a different set of rules for different players. If players are truly that special they shouldn’t have to worry about drawing calls to produce.

This is a weird comment. If anything the league doesn't call enough penalties on plugs when they are up against stars. The NHL already doesn't call the rulebook for all star players in the league. Why would you want it to stay that way?

[GioforPM]

Intentional game management probably is there to some extent, at least in the “I don’t want to look unfair so I’d better call one against the other guys, too” sense. But I think there’s a lot more unintentional game management. Where a team is behind and pushing hard, so refs get caught up in it and end up looking for/noticing penalties more.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I know this is the outrage at reffing thread, and think refs have a much tougher job, and do a better job, than a lot of people here want to believe.

[zamler]

Uncle Gary is saying, good job what's the problem?

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by Weitz

This is a weird comment. If anything the league doesn't call enough penalties on plugs when they are up against stars. The NHL already doesn't call the rulebook for all star players in the league. Why would you want it to stay that way?

What an Edmontonian narrative.
McDiver gets away with plenty.
An argument could be made that the league gives their darlings special treatment too.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

What an Edmontonian narrative.
McDiver gets away with plenty.
An argument could be made that the league gives their darlings special treatment too.

Remember Crosby hacking off the end of Methot’s finger?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

What an Edmontonian narrative.
McDiver gets away with plenty.
An argument could be made that the league gives their darlings special treatment too.

Every penalty should be called. Just like the NFL. Regardless of player timing or playoffs or anything. You can whine about me being an oilers fan if you want, but why would I want to watch guys like Kassian mug Gaudreau all night instead of watching him put his skill on display? I watch hockey to see skill and great hockey. Not plugs plugging it up.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Well the NBA is a 100 times worse as they don't just actively manage games they actively manage the standings. But that doesn't mean the NHL or it's fans should rest on "more integrity than the NBA".

The NBA is seeking $8 billion per season in TV rights, so they must be doing something right.

experts expect the next NBA national television broadcast deal to be worth near triple the current $24 billion one (about $2.6 billion per year).

Source:https://sports.yahoo.com/ratings-slu...QbcnH-lzVvKkYQ

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Every penalty should be called. Just like the NFL. Regardless of player timing or playoffs or anything. You can whine about me being an oilers fan if you want, but why would I want to watch guys like Kassian mug Gaudreau all night instead of watching him put his skill on display? I watch hockey to see skill and great hockey. Not plugs plugging it up.

ummmm.....

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Muffins

ummmm.....

Heh, they are still human and #### it up.

But a pass interference in the endzone in OT in the superbowl is still a penalty.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Every penalty should be called. Just like the NFL. Regardless of player timing or playoffs or anything. You can whine about me being an oilers fan if you want, but why would I want to watch guys like Kassian mug Gaudreau all night instead of watching him put his skill on display? I watch hockey to see skill and great hockey. Not plugs plugging it up.

You can call holding almost every down in the NFL. And you could technically call interference every shift in the NHL.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Intentional game management probably is there to some extent, at least in the “I don’t want to look unfair so I’d better call one against the other guys, too” sense. But I think there’s a lot more unintentional game management. Where a team is behind and pushing hard, so refs get caught up in it and end up looking for/noticing penalties more.

Isn't that intentional if they are looking harder to make calls at certain moments in the game? NHL officiating is like clockwork in close games;

Team A is leading a game by a goal in a closely played contest where the officials have done a good job not calling a bunch of ticky tack penalties. In the last 5 minutes the officials call a ticky tack call out of nowhere on Team A putting Team B on the powerplay.

That's not getting caught up in the moment. That's game management and they are very consistent in doing this.

[BarDown]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I know this is the outrage at reffing thread, and think refs have a much tougher job, and do a better job, than a lot of people here want to believe.

Hockey is definitely one of the most difficult sports to officiate. The combination of the speed and physicality of pro hockey is pretty unique in the sporting world.

The stuff I take issue with certainly isn't that refs miss a penalty because there was just too much going on, or the game was moving too fast to see it. They have a tough job. No doubt about it.

However, adding game management, shifting standards between playoffs and regular season, etc. into the mix certainly doesn't make their job any easier.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by BarDown

Hockey is definitely one of the most difficult sports to officiate. The combination of the speed and physicality of pro hockey is pretty unique in the sporting world.

The stuff I take issue with certainly isn't that refs miss a penalty because there was just too much going on, or the game was moving too fast to see it. They have a tough job. No doubt about it.

However, adding game management, shifting standards between playoffs and regular season, etc. into the mix certainly doesn't make their job any easier.

It's really not.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Isn't that intentional if they are looking harder to make calls at certain moments in the game? NHL officiating is like clockwork in close games;

Team A is leading a game by a goal in a closely played contest where the officials have done a good job not calling a bunch of ticky tack penalties. In the last 5 minutes the officials call a ticky tack call out of nowhere on Team A putting Team B on the powerplay.

That's not getting caught up in the moment. That's game management and they are very consistent in doing this.

A little semantic but I’m not saying they are looking to make a call - they get emotionally biased towards one though. The thought process I described was not forefront - it was more subconscious. But it doesn’t matter - they should be resisting that urge.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It's really not.

There are far more players and actions going on in a single football play than an NHL game. Football has more rules and is much more complex. Hockey is pretty easy to official compared to football. It's why CFL officiating is by far the worst in professional sports as they don't have the money to set up competent officiating.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

There are far more players and actions going on in a single football play than an NHL game. Football has more rules and is much more complex. Hockey is pretty easy to official compared to football. It's why CFL officiating is the worst in professional sports as they don't have the money to set up competent officiating.

And I would hazard to say that Basketball is far faster and more physical than hockey as well.

[Johnny Makarov]

Why feel sorry for him? 6 figure book deal coming!

Just waiting for some disgruntled sportsnet employee to drop 100s of hours of hot mic convos onto wikileaks.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

And I would hazard to say that Basketball is far faster and more physical than hockey as well.

Uhhh...

Because people can run faster than they skate?