2021 NFL off season thread - Page 33 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Jiggy · 03-17-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think most of us realize that it always comes down to guaranteed money and signing bonuses but they gave out a lot of guarantees with these deals. I don't have issues with overpaying a player or two in free agency if you are getting players that are at the top of their position but I don't think any of these players are what I would call that. I think the Patriots could make a run for the playoffs but their chances largely depend on if the Bills are for real or take a step back.

Which players do you think they overpaid for? I think their a legit QB away from being a contender.

Senator Clay Davis · 03-17-2021, 11:06 AM

If the Texans are involved in any way in this then the franchise might as well fold because no one of value will ever play there again

https://twitter.com/user/status/1372053609488080902

https://twitter.com/user/status/1372032468774100995

ResAlien · 03-17-2021, 11:14 AM

She says he texted her to apologize so that should be an easy fix. Let’s see the messages

rubecube · 03-17-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy

Which players do you think they overpaid for? I think their a legit QB away from being a contender.

Agholor, Smith, and Mills were all overpays. Mills wasn't as bad as the first two, but still not good.

Strange Brew · 03-17-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If the Texans are involved in any way in this then the franchise might as well fold because no one of value will ever play there again

https://twitter.com/user/status/1372053609488080902

https://twitter.com/user/status/1372032468774100995

Buzbeee, the plaintiff’s attorney, is an interesting guy with quite the reputation.

What do you mean “if the Texans are involved”? How? Because the owner knows the lawyer?

Jiggy · 03-17-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rubecube

Agholor, Smith, and Mills were all overpays. Mills wasn't as bad as the first two, but still not good.

Agholor's 2021 cap number is currently ranked 27th in the NFL which means he is behind players such as Randall Cobb, Alshon Jeffery and Jamison Crowder who all posted worse or similar statistics last year.

rubecube · 03-17-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy

Agholor's 2021 cap number is currently ranked 27th in the NFL which means he is behind players such as Randall Cobb, Alshon Jeffery and Jamison Crowder who all posted worse or similar statistics last year.

The other 3 are very likely getting cut this year (Alshon 100% is going to be released). Agholor posted the second worst catch rate in the league last year according to PFF. His cap hit also rises to $15M next year, which would be the 11th highest in the league at WR, and it'll cost them $10M in dead money to cut him. It's a bad deal, especially considering the other WR options that are still on the market.

Erick Estrada · 03-17-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy

Agholor's 2021 cap number is currently ranked 27th in the NFL which means he is behind players such as Randall Cobb, Alshon Jeffery and Jamison Crowder who all posted worse or similar statistics last year.

He was a scrap heap player last year that the Raiders signed for $1.5 million and he had a good not great year largely due to Waller commanding a lot of attention and catching deep balls from an accurate deep ball thrower in Carr. I don't see him ever having a better season than the one he just came off and he's getting paid to be a $1000 yard receiver. I'm still pretty shocked he got that contract based on one decent year.

Erick Estrada · 03-17-2021, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Buzbeee, the plaintiff’s attorney, is an interesting guy with quite the reputation.

What do you mean “if the Texans are involved”? How? Because the owner knows the lawyer?

I can't see what the Texans would have to gain by defaming their QB and having him suspended by the league as that would pretty well tank any trade value he would have.

rubecube · 03-17-2021, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He was a scrap heap player last year that the Raiders signed for $1.5 million and he had a good not great year largely due to Waller commanding a lot of attention and catching balls from an accurate deep ball thrower in Carr. I don't see him ever having a better season than the one he just came off and he's getting paid to be a $1000 yard receiver.

Not only that, but his best seasons have come from playing in the slot when there are 2-3 better receiving options on the outside/at TE to take attention off of him. The Pats already have one of the best slot WRs in the league in Edelman, so that tells me they think Agholor can play outside, where he's generally been awful his entire career.

Erick Estrada · 03-17-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rubecube

Not only that, but his best seasons have come from playing in the slot when there are 2-3 better receiving options on the outside/at TE to take attention off of him. The Pats already have one of the best slot WRs in the league in Edelman, so that tells me they think Agholor can play outside, where he's generally been awful his entire career.

He actually played on the outside last season with the Raiders so I expect that's where they will play him next season.

rubecube · 03-17-2021, 12:30 PM

I laughed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1372238085719789577

Cheese · 03-17-2021, 12:36 PM

Pats bringing C Ted Karras back after a year in Miami.

devo22 · 03-17-2021, 12:37 PM

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Pats bringing C Ted Karras back after a year in Miami.

Andrews really hitting the market then? I thought this was just the Pats' usual strategy of letting him see what he can get and then matching it.

dirk diggler · 03-17-2021, 12:40 PM

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I think it's fine to do it every few years, especially when you hoard comp picks like they have. The only head scratcher to me is Newton. Adding quality WRs and TEs via free agency is great if you have a competent QB, but ...

you dont hear much about Stidham anymore, it would appear thet he will not be the answer at QB as he really should be the starter by now if he had the game

Strange Brew · 03-17-2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I can't see what the Texans would have to gain by defaming their QB and having him suspended by the league as that would pretty well tank any trade value he would have.

It’s certainly quite an accusation to even imply. Based on fact that two uber rich white guys lived in the same neighborhood in Houston.

devo22 · 03-17-2021, 01:52 PM

Raiders are not cutting Hudson, but are trading him to the Cardinals for a pick swap.

Cheese · 03-17-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by devo22

Andrews really hitting the market then? I thought this was just the Pats' usual strategy of letting him see what he can get and then matching it.

Looks like that is the case. They will save more coin this way.

The Big Chill · 03-17-2021, 02:27 PM

There is apparently to be four separate assault cases brought against Watson. He might be in a bit of trouble on this one.

Strange Brew · 03-17-2021, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Chill

There is apparently to be four separate assault cases brought against Watson. He might be in a bit of trouble on this one.

Cases as in criminal cases? All I have heard so far is one civil suit that was posted by the plaintiff’s attorney on social media as soon as it was filed.