03-15-2021, 10:09 AM
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#41
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I find it funny that Shaw still calls their internet Fibre+ but it's still just old fashioned copper coax.
Not there there is a problem with coax. You can get great speeds. Just funny how they have to mislead in their marketing because Telus actually has fibre optic.
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This is completely false. They just had a fiber cut half a year ago in my community that took out half our neighbourhood. We were down for 15 hours. When i talked to the tech and told him i’m not on fiber why are my services down, he said fiber feeds all of their communities and everybody on Shaw is on fiber to a point.
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03-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Yes, a lot of it is fibre to the pole, then coax to your house. Hence the fibre+. + whatever the last 50 feet is. I don't have a problem with the name, because fibre doesn't indicate a speed. As long as you get the speed you pay for, it doesn't really matter what the cable is made of. Some people are mad about this, like Telus and Whiteout403.
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03-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by stampsx2
This is completely false. They just had a fiber cut half a year ago in my community that took out half our neighbourhood. We were down for 15 hours. When i talked to the tech and told him i’m not on fiber why are my services down, he said fiber feeds all of their communities and everybody on Shaw is on fiber to a point.
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Yes they have fiber backbones just like every internet provider, but when selling a fiber service that usually indicates fiber to the home. When you were on dial-up the packets also would have moved via fiber backbones, was that a fiber service?
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03-15-2021, 10:16 AM
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#44
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Norm!
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So Alberta's strategy has to do whatever we need to do to get Roger's to move their head office here and steal Ontario jerbs.
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03-15-2021, 10:19 AM
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Wouldn't Rogers be investing in 5G equipment in Western Canada regardless of this purchase of Shaw? Net 3000 new jobs sounds fishy too. How long does that last before massive layoffs in Shaw's end of the business?
I just don't see any benefit to this other than for Shareholders. If I wanted to voice my opposition to this, should it be through the CRTC?
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03-15-2021, 10:20 AM
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#46
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
So Alberta's strategy has to do whatever we need to do to get Roger's to move their head office here and steal Ontario jerbs.
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Lower corporate taxes in alberta maybe?
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03-15-2021, 10:21 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Mazrim
Wouldn't Rogers be investing in 5G equipment in Western Canada regardless of this purchase of Shaw? Net 3000 new jobs sounds fishy too. How long does that last before massive layoffs in Shaw's end of the business?
I just don't see any benefit to this other than for Shareholders. If I wanted to voice my opposition to this, should it be through the CRTC?
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Its a great benefit to Shaw shareholders, If I had shares in Shaw, I would be extremely happy today.
You can complain to the CRTC for all the good it would do.
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03-15-2021, 10:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I assume this is just the telecom side of things and doesn't include any media properties?
Although, I don't know if Shaw even owns any media properties anymore. I think everything has been spun off into Corus over the years, even Global.
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03-15-2021, 10:59 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Its a great benefit to Shaw shareholders, If I had shares in Shaw, I would be extremely happy today.
You can complain to the CRTC for all the good it would do.
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If my last name was Shaw, I'd be even happier 
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03-15-2021, 11:45 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
That's a plan.
A start up formed by former Shaw executives? They sit on it for a year and sell it back at a massive profit.
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Valid, but if it was that easy to skirt competitor rules, then why even impose them?
Makes Libs look tough I guess?
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03-15-2021, 11:51 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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As a Calgarian/shaw customer this sucks. But the market is indicating a significant chance the deal will not close. SJR.B is up a lot, but there is still a huge spread between the current ~$33/share and the $40.50 buyout price. If the market was sure the deal would close a cash buyout would only have a few percent spread. This indicates that the market thinks this only has an ~50-70% chance of closing or so.
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03-15-2021, 11:52 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I'm guessing they'll do the Fido / Rogers thing, where they keep Shaw / Rogers separate. So I'm not really confident we'd be able to bundle Rogers services with Shaw services.
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03-15-2021, 11:55 AM
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Franchise Player
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To be fair, Shaw sucked too. But I hope nothing will change with my internet and phone service through Freedom, I have a really good deal as it stands.
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03-15-2021, 01:01 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
To be fair, Shaw sucked too. But I hope nothing will change with my internet and phone service through Freedom, I have a really good deal as it stands.
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Yeah as a Freedom customer I'm not liking this one bit. And when I finally find a place to live I was going to go full shaw and bundle my wireless and internet.
Also, how's this going to affect shawopen and passpoints?
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03-15-2021, 01:03 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Yeah as a Freedom customer I'm not liking this one bit. And when I finally find a place to live I was going to go full shaw and bundle my wireless and internet.
Also, how's this going to affect shawopen and passpoints?
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Oohh, good point. ShawOpen has been very good for us as a family, great Wifi availability without running up data usage/charges.
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03-15-2021, 01:12 PM
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Loves Teh Chat!
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I wouldn't be surprised if CRTC or the Competition Bureau killed the deal.
It does make a lot of sense for Rogers though, they've always been a stronger presence in Eastern Canada with a gap in the West. Shaw would fit in nicely for them. As both a Freedom and Shaw customer, I don't like it.
Last edited by Torture; 03-15-2021 at 01:19 PM.
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03-15-2021, 01:18 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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There is a very good chance this deal is not gonna be allowed by CRTC. Shares are trading at well below the offer price.
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03-15-2021, 01:22 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
To be fair, Shaw sucked too. But I hope nothing will change with my internet and phone service through Freedom, I have a really good deal as it stands.
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This is my worry too. I have an unreal cell phone plan and internet plan with Shaw at the moment. I absolutely hated Rogers as a mobile provider, now this happens. Not a fan of having less options.
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03-15-2021, 01:45 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
Wouldn't Rogers be investing in 5G equipment in Western Canada regardless of this purchase of Shaw? Net 3000 new jobs sounds fishy too. How long does that last before massive layoffs in Shaw's end of the business?
I just don't see any benefit to this other than for Shareholders. If I wanted to voice my opposition to this, should it be through the CRTC?
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Net negative maybe. There is zero chance shareholders approve a more bloated company. Do you need two people buying telecom equipment or just one?
These are mainly based on cost synergies. That Rogers can buy into Western Canada and up their revenue with minimal or static employee and cost over head.
To advertise the combined companies will be 3000 staff bigger doesn't jive with what these are typically about.
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