2020/2021 English Premier League

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Right. But you mentioned, Kane for Player of the Season & comparing their goals, as if their positions are directly linear.

They aren't. The only relevance is a midfielder is within the top EPL scorers, which of course is usually dominated by forwards.

Bit premature to be awarding Kane. Bookies odds;
https://www.oddschecker.com/football...er-of-the-year

Kane and Fernendes are both number 10s now, so the comparison checks out

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Right. But you mentioned, Kane for Player of the Season & comparing their goals, as if their positions are directly linear.

They aren't. The only relevance is a midfielder is within the top EPL scorers, which of course is usually dominated by forwards.

Bit premature to be awarding Kane. Bookies odds;
https://www.oddschecker.com/football...er-of-the-year

I thought the + 16 penalties on Fernandes would have made it clear it was a bit in jest

They made a big deal of him tying kane during the United game, didn't mention the fact that only 10 of his goals and assists were from open play

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Kane and Fernendes are both number 10s now, so the comparison checks out

He’s not a 10. Sits back like an 8.

[VladtheImpaler]

So.... I think the top 4 is:

MCI
MU or Chelsea
MU or Chelsea
Tottenham
...

[nixon45]

Havertz has been fantastic today.

Easy MOTM.

[devo22]

I'll tear my hair out if United don't at least try for a Lingard+cash for Rice swap this summer.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Why would West Ham sell? They're going to need Rice for their CL run next year.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Why would West Ham sell? They're going to need Rice for their CL run next year.

How hilarious would it be, to have the second London club, not Arsenal or Spurs.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean I kinda joke, but of the potential non-Manchester top four teams they've been the most consistent this season. If they can avoid a bad run of injuries they'll have a decent shot at it.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nixon45

Havertz has been fantastic today.

Easy MOTM.

Shocking what happens when you actually play a guy in the position he was most successful at with Dortmund Leverkusen as kind of a false 9 almost.

I had posted this back in January.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Biggest issue Frank had is playing guys in their natural positions.

I went and looked at past RB Leipzig formations and Werner generally played more on the left side. Either on the left side of a front three, or on the left side in a two striker formation. Looks like he rarely he was played as a sole striker.

For Chelsea he's played mostly up top as a lone striker or on the right side.

It's the same thing with Havertz. His best season for Leverkusen was this past season when they deployed him in more of an attacking role - some times as the center forward of a three forward formation, or as the Right Wing of the attacking 3 in a 4-2-3-1 set up.

For Chelsea they've had him in a deeper role playing more as a traditional Right Midfielder, which doesn't suit him.

Ziyech played as the Right Wing on the right side in a 4-2-3-1, or in a 4-3-3 formation at Ajax.

Been the same thing with Pulisic - if you look at his last season in Dortmund he played mostly as a RW or CAM. Then goes to Chelsea and they play him on the left almost exclusively.

I'd almost be trying this if I were Chelsea:

Werner - Havertz - Ziyech
Pulisic
Kante - Kovacic

Werner and Ziyech were both used more in these type of winger positions. Havertz actually had a lot of success as the CF in almost more of a False 9 role. Pulisic has stated that he personally thinks playing in the Center is his best position, and then you have Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho behind them to protect.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Shocking what happens when you actually play a guy in the position he was most successful at with Dortmund as kind of a false 9 almost.

Leverkusen

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by cheevers

Leverkusen

Thanks.

My mind just defaults to every good young player playing for Dortmund.

[Senator Clay Davis]

My mind usually just defaults that they end up at Bayern.

[Kipper is King]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Why would West Ham sell? They're going to need Rice for their CL run next year.

Exactly. I believe your post was sarcastic, but IMHO you're not wrong!

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

He’s not a 10. Sits back like an 8.

True, Kane has been sitting back deeper as of late...

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by devo22

I'll tear my hair out if United don't at least try for a Lingard+cash for Rice swap this summer.

Marina will give them cash plus Tomori and Abraham.

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Why would West Ham sell? They're going to need Rice for their CL run next year.

Do you know who owns West Ham? Of course they'll sell.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Cappy

True, Kane has been sitting back deeper as of late...

Slava this your second account? What's with the confused spurs fans?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Slava this your second account? What's with the confused spurs fans?

I'm being facetious

[Slava]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Slava this your second account? What's with the confused spurs fans?

What was I confused about?