Flames fire Geoff Ward, hire Darryl Sutter, signs 3 year deal

[cannon7]

Skating is usually worked on in the offseason as it requires lengthy recovery times that you simply can't do during the season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Skating is usually worked on in the offseason as it requires lengthy recovery times that you simply can't do during the season.

Pretty tough on the young guys to devote their fun off season to a grinding activity like that. But maybe Sutter will convince them, if he thinks it’s a need.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

If you are measuring by cups, then Darryl Sutter is tied for 12th overall (surprised me how difficult it is for a coach to repeat). If he wins one cup during his time in Calgary, he moves up into a tie for 8th best (with Joel Quenneville). If he wins 2 cups while in Calgary (totally reasonable expectation!!) he jumps into a tie for 4th most successful coach in NHL history. Winning 3 cups over his contract pushes him into a tie for 3rd overall (wouldn't that be nice?). Fat chance of passing Bowman (9 cups), and Toe Blake (8), ever.

Another fun fact: the only coaches to win cups with different franchises are:

Dick Irvin (Leafs x1, Habs x3)
Scotty Bowman (Habs x5, Pens x1, Red Wings x3)


Would love to see Darrly join that list, but I think Laviolette, Quenneville, and Trotz have better odds at the moment (pretty sure Torts is the only other currently eligible)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Another fun fact: the only coaches to win cups with different franchises are:



Dick Irvin (Leafs x1, Habs x3)

Scotty Bowman (Habs x5, Pens x1, Red Wings x3)





Would love to see Darrly join that list, but I think Laviolette, Quenneville, and Trotz have better odds at the moment (pretty sure Torts is the only other currently eligible)

Peter Laviolette? He is not even working right now.

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Another fun fact: the only coaches to win cups with different franchises are:

Dick Irvin (Leafs x1, Habs x3)
Scotty Bowman (Habs x5, Pens x1, Red Wings x3)


Would love to see Darrly join that list, but I think Laviolette, Quenneville, and Trotz have better odds at the moment (pretty sure Torts is the only other currently eligible)

I like to think the 89 Cup was on Badger Bob’s shoulders and he has two teams with cups in my mind.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Peter Laviolette? He is not even working right now.

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He's the caps coach...

[Domoic]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Peter Laviolette? He is not even working right now.

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Lol

Bannable offense!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Peter Laviolette? He is not even working right now.

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Caps have an off day?

[Nsd1]

Originally Posted by dammage79

He's the caps coach...

Could be his twin brother Pierre, hard to tell with masks these days.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah the only skating lessons I had growing up was at “Power Skating”. I’m not sure if it was my parents idea or something our team just did, but it was a specific group of instructors, and I hated it. And I’m not a great skater.

We all joked growing up that you can’t teach skating. But you can, just nobody does.

Yes, times have changed. They teach skating to kids now at a level that was nowhere on the radar when we grew up. Tons of edge work drills every practice. So many kids have great ‘Crosbys’ at a young age, and it’s just another move around the pylons. I never practiced it as a kid.

[Flames0910]

It’s really amazing that we’ve gone from a middle-of-the-pack basement dweller to potential cup contender overnight. Normally coaches come in and check their comments to the media so as not to set unrealistic expectations. Don’t think for a second that the unfinished business line and his comments about this group having what it takes was an accident from Darryl.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Jetfire

Best I've got.

Dynamite Darryl Sutter can win the World Tag Team Championship by himself.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

It’s really amazing that we’ve gone from a middle-of-the-pack basement dweller to potential cup contender overnight. Normally coaches come in and check their comments to the media so as not to set unrealistic expectations. Don’t think for a second that the unfinished business line and his comments about this group having what it takes was an accident from Darryl.

Players have to play along first. This will be a massive test for this team.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Peter Laviolette? He is not even working right now.

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To quote, Textcritic:

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Wow. What an awful post.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is such a terrible post.

Were the above reactions warranted? Well ....

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Your post kind of invited this sort of response by its sheer ridiculousness.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It's not about the size it's about the type of muscle fibers, you might be naturally fast because you have good fast-twitch muscles, some people have genetically more and others need to train each muscle group a lot to achieve them. Even in world class athletes this can take a long time.

How easy is it to determine or get a sense of a player's fast-twitch muscles? Is it something that could be determined at the combine? It would be great tool to be able to forecast a player's potential to increase their speed.

Posters keep bringing up players who were able to significantly increase their skating speed - how do we know whether they were able to because they put effort into it or that they put effort into AND they had fast-twitch muscles?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by D as in David

How easy is it to determine or get a sense of a player's fast-twitch muscles? Is it something that could be determined at the combine? It would be great tool to be able to forecast a player's potential to increase their speed.

Posters keep bringing up players who were able to significantly increase their skating speed - how do we know whether they were able to because they put effort into it or that they put effort into AND they had fast-twitch muscles?

There are different parts to improving

A large portion of the training to target and develop fast and slow twitch muscles is done in the gym with targeted exercises

Then there is technique which only can be developed and practiced on ice

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

To quote, Textcritic:

Were the above reactions warranted? Well ....

It is always interesting to see if people can laugh at themselves

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Players have to play along first. This will be a massive test for this team.

Yup. Either way, in a couple years we will know.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

It’s really amazing that we’ve gone from a middle-of-the-pack basement dweller to potential cup contender overnight. Normally coaches come in and check their comments to the media so as not to set unrealistic expectations. Don’t think for a second that the unfinished business line and his comments about this group having what it takes was an accident from Darryl.

Nothing is an accident with Sutter. (Though a few of his trades were train wrecks)

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

To quote, Textcritic:





Were the above reactions warranted? Well ....

TBF to textcritic, IIRC most of his harsh condemnations come to posts that are simply inane, not simple factoid brain-farts.

Of course, when his brain read Peter Laviolette? he probably should have asked-jeeves instead of posting here.