Flames fire Geoff Ward, hire Darryl Sutter, signs 3 year deal

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Who knows, but to me this starts a Treliving countdown. I can’t see this as his hire. The over under is this free agent season. I would bet under right now.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Any proof of this? I honestly haven't seen that. Please share.

I think people are assuming this because Treliving has passed over Sutter twice now when he was available amid a coaching change. Also, some have this silly notion that Treliving would not hire an experienced coach because he secretly feared a hostile takeover from within, or some such nonsense.

I think it is likely that this was a decision made in close consultation with ownership, but I don't believe for a second that Sutter was hired by anyone but Treliving.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Darryl Sutter coached Connor Mackey's dad in Saginaw.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I didn't say a word about Phillips...

I just said they shouldn't play Ritchie on a nightly basis and should call up somebody from the farm instead. Pat said something like "well, we know how you feel about Phillips."

Cool, Pat

I appreciate your updates and perspective on the farm btw

You are shaping up to be outstanding in your field

(Farm joke, will see myself out)

[Chonger]

Remove the limit on thanks!!!

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[getbak]

Conroy interview on Global: https://globalnews.ca/news/7678755/c...-sutter-coach/


EDIT: Actually looks like it's an old interview, but still some insight from the AGM about playing for Sutter.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Justification for a coach that hasn’t coached in the NHL in a long while being a good thing?

3 seasons isn't really that long

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

You know there is no proof now and this is the kind of thing that comes out later

Like when the owners made Darryl fire Keenan

No, I don't know there is no proof. That's why I was asking. I thought I missed something, hence why I was asking.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Yamer

As mentioned before, I don't think we should be crediting Treliving in any way on this decision.

His hand was forced. We'll see how this turns out, but given everything we know from the outside this wasn't a Tre solution.

This is pure speculation but I do wonder if this seed was planted much earlier than we’d think.

There have been rumors that Sutter wanted to be coach here again going back to when Peters was hired. And I’ve heard rumblings that at that time ownership would have preferred Sutter too.

Then there have also been some rumblings going back to Wards official announcement that “Tre didn’t get the chance to hire the guy he wanted this offseason”

I do wonder if it’s possible that this offseason ownership told Tre that he had two options: Make Ward the full time coach or hire Sutter.

Quite possible that at the time Treliving said Ward but now with how the seasons gone ownership may have stepped in and forced the move to Sutter.

Alternatively you’d have to think that the Assistant GM to Treliving was probably a big supporter of them potentially hiring Sutter as coach too...

[Enoch Root]

Darryl Sutter behind the bench, and an elite goalie between the pipes...

Can history repeat itself? (and right it's wrong?)

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Who knows, but to me this starts a Treliving countdown. I can’t see this as his hire. The over under is this free agent season. I would bet under right now.

I'm hoping this starts a long-time, successful relationship between Darryl Sutter, the coach - and Brad Treliving, the General Manager.

[CGY12]

Definitely think BTs hand was forced. I'm completely guessing here but I think after 2 lopsided loses to the Sens and 2 days between games, a few meetings took place between ownership and management. Ownership probably brought up the idea of hiring Sutter and thought it made sense to bring him in despite the contract situation with Ward. BT knew his job was on the line and agreed with ownership.

[1qqaaz]

Pat says he thinks Sutter still might have to go through 7 days of quarantine, or at least some form of Covid protocol.
Does anyone know anything about this?

[Canada 02]

optimistically, I'm reminded of the St Louis Blues from about two years ago. They added some big pieces in the off season, very high expectation, then they started the season like crap. Blues fans wanted Yeo fired, Armstrong fired, trade everyone not named Ryan O'Reilly. Then they hired a hard-ass coach named Berube, got great goaltending from Billington and turned everything around

[Robbob]

sounds like Darryl is already with the team if he is meeting the press with Treliving. I guess that is a bit of an assumption now days, could be on separate zooms. Will be interesting to hear how this unfolded. I think like some have mentioned, this decision could have been made a week(s) ago and just had to wait out any quarantine.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think people are assuming this because Treliving has passed over Sutter twice now when he was available amid a coaching change. Also, some have this silly notion that Treliving would not hire an experienced coach because he secretly feared a hostile takeover from within, or some such nonsense.

I think it is likely that this ws a decision made in close consultation with ownership, but I don't believe for a second that Sutter was hired by anyone but Treliving.

So a few things. And we will start with those related to a key party here

- owners have fired a coach when Sutter was GM
- workplace politics are a real thing, and not all coaches have successful resumes including the GM position. Why, Sutter hired Feaster as AGM and he ended up taking his job

No need to be naive nor presumptive, but please. Think about what you are saying in that context

Is it really implausible that ownership essentially gave Tre two options, one very obvious?

[Traditional_Ale]

Darryl Sutter doesn't need quarantine. Covid looks him in the eye with mortal fear.

[Mattman]

If Sutter can get Monahan working as a proper 1st center then we are in business.

But even his 2011 Kings had Koptiar and Carter.

This is a really good start, but I still think there's work to be done.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Can he kick some IQ into Bennett's head?

Does every thread has to end up to be a Bennett bashing thread?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Darryl Sutter doesn't need quarantine. Covid looks him in the eye with mortal fear.

Covid has to quarantine for 14 days after meeting Darryl Sutter