Neighbors dog droppings

[Matata]

My dad had a neighbor call bylaw on him while he was legally adding an entry canopy to his home, there was no issue but my dad quickly figured out who it was and since then hes made several home improvements that piss off his neighbour and lower their property value, but always within the letter of the law, including chopping down a tree they love and storing his big ass trailer next to their property, occasionally he'll remind him that he thinks hes an #######.

Because in my dads eyes, hiding behind an authority for something petty doesnt make you less of a man, it makes you none of a man.

[Nyah]

^ Yikes.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Matata

My dad had a neighbor call bylaw on him while he was legally adding an entry canopy to his home, there was no issue but my dad quickly figured out who it was and since then hes made several home improvements that piss off his neighbour and lower their property value, but always within the letter of the law, including chopping down a tree they love and storing his big ass trailer next to their property, occasionally he'll remind him that he thinks hes an #######.

Because in my dads eyes, hiding behind an authority for something petty doesnt make you less of a man, it makes you none of a man.

You dad needs to reevaluate who the bad guy is here.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Matata

My dad had a neighbor call bylaw on him while he was legally adding an entry canopy to his home, there was no issue but my dad quickly figured out who it was and since then hes made several home improvements that piss off his neighbour and lower their property value, but always within the letter of the law, including chopping down a tree they love and storing his big ass trailer next to their property, occasionally he'll remind him that he thinks hes an #######.

Because in my dads eyes, hiding behind an authority for something petty doesnt make you less of a man, it makes you none of a man.

I think your Dad is the ####### here for being so petty. I can just imagine how that anger he had inside him consumed him as he took revenge on his neighbour. IMO it's a very sad to live a life.

[flamesfever]

I can't help thinking something is amiss when neighbors fight over a pile of winter dog sh**, and end up becoming enemies. My first move would be to do nothing, and wait to see if he cleans it up come spring. Then if things don't improve, and especially if there is a noticeable odour, I think looking the neighbor in the eye, and discussing your concern in a cool, respectful manner is the way to address the situation. informing the bylaw people should be a last resort. The above is a good example of what sort of reaction that step can generate.

I think it's important that people spend time trying to cultivate a friendly relationship with their neighbors, as soon as possible after moving in. Things like taking over a welcome present, having conversations over an adjoining fence, discussing common interests like kids, dogs, sports etc. are all things that help develop a rapport.

We have lived in our house for over 50 years, and I guess we have been lucky, as we have never had a bad neighbor.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

... Making them go against their nature would be like training a human that having fun is a bad thing.

Well. That is not that hard really. We are all Flames fans after all.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by pylon

Dude, we get it. You hate dogs and pets in general, and can't seem to understand how other people do. I actually find it pretty disgusting how you talked about your pet cat and locked it in a garage, it almost sounds like animal abuse to be honest. It seems you have some sort of transactional expectation of an animal, and don't either have the caring in you, or are simply too callous to care about the welfare of another living thing.

lol, didn't actually do it for two reasons. The first, I didn't want the cat walking on my cars and potentially scratching them. The second, I couldn't figure out a way to lock it away when the drive door opened.

Nothing would have been cruel about having a garage cat, though. People have cats in way smaller places than my 2.5-car finished and heated garage. Look at people who live in RVs, vans, school busses, bachelor apartments, or no home at all.

But yeah, pretty much everybody who owns an animal gets something out of it. Of course it's transactional and it's beyond naïve to think otherwise. Don't you go on in the next paragraph to tell us how you get emotional support from your dog. Jamie, pull that up:

Originally Posted by pylon

Here's the thing, a lot of people do make amazing connections with their pets. And the transaction you typically make is to take care of the animal, not the other way around. I went through a couple extremely rough patches in life, that without my dog, I don't know if I would have made it out of. Dogs know when you are sad, they will quietly sit there free of judgement and be there for you. Just petting my dog after a brutally stressful day, lowers my heart rate.

Just because you personally don't get it, doesn't mean they need to be eradicated and made extinct like you suggested before 'dess'. You need to get off this little schtick, and realize that other people might have interests and connections with things, that don't suit your narrow minded narrative. It used to be funny, now it's just sad.

Well I'm pretty sure we all agree that Alberta eradicating the province of rats is a good thing. I don't see anybody up in arms at that. I take it one step further and want the same for dogs, except I would make allowances for working dogs and I wouldn't take anybody's pets away. I'd just mandate sterilization and prohibit the sale of any dogs from X date and beyond. That would allow the current dogs to live out their lives with their owners (aside from pitbulls - I think they should be euthanized).

Anyway, it's moot because I understand now that my idea doesn't have enough support at this time to matter. Basically, don't worry about it.

Originally Posted by pylon

That's more narrow minded BS.

I've resolved many disputes peacefully and without animosity by simply talking to neighbours. The one time it blew up in my face, was when I was completely wrong, which I deserved the short end on.

I've called a by law officer exactly zero times in my life, and had I about the flag, the result would have been no different. I wouldn't want to hide behind a bylaw officer in that case as it could have been 3 or 4 other people, and I wouldn't want anyone else to have any sort of animosity because of something I requested. I stand behind my convictions and will never say anything behind someone's back, or behind the veil of a peace officer, I wouldn't say to their face.

Okay, well pat yourself on the back with your fingerless gloves as much as you want, but get a few interactions under your belt with obtuse/aggressive/moronic neighbours and you may change your tact. If your neighbours are reasonable people then by all means have yourself a reasonable conversation. You should know that some neighbours are unreasonable and will get their nose out of joint for no reason. For proof of this, just look in the mirror and say, 'flags are not illegal. flags are not illegal."

And your impression of me hiding behind a peace officer is awesome. I'm not hiding. I'm getting stuff done the easiest, fastest and most effective way possible.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I can't help thinking something is amiss when neighbors fight over a pile of winter dog sh**, and end up becoming enemies. My first move would be to do nothing, and wait to see if he cleans it up come spring. Then if things don't improve, and especially if there is a noticeable odour, I think looking the neighbor in the eye, and discussing your concern in a cool, respectful manner is the way to address the situation. informing the bylaw people should be a last resort. The above is a good example of what sort of reaction that step can generate.

I think it's important that people spend time trying to cultivate a friendly relationship with their neighbors, as soon as possible after moving in. Things like taking over a welcome present, having conversations over an adjoining fence, discussing common interests like kids, dogs, sports etc. are all things that help develop a rapport.

We have lived in our house for over 50 years, and I guess we have been lucky, as we have never had a bad neighbor.

I don’t have a dog and don’t understand why people get dogs then don’t take responsibility for their actions. Why is picking up after your dog such an issue?

You bought a house for say half a million and you have turds, steps from your back door, your grass is ruined with yellow spots all over it, turd bits all over your house that got caught in your dogs paws, dog hair everywhere. Seems counter intuitive.

I don’t even buy into the “i’m waiting till spring to pick it up”. That would be like flushing your toilet when it fills to the top.

I suppose you could wait for the spring rains to wash it all away but if that’s the direction we’re heading then we may as well dump our excrements out the window like they did in the midevil days. I would think we’ve learned from that experience with diseases running rampant during that era.

Dog owners should be licensed. Really.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I can't help thinking something is amiss when neighbors fight over a pile of winter dog sh**, and end up becoming enemies. My first move would be to do nothing, and wait to see if he cleans it up come spring. Then if things don't improve, and especially if there is a noticeable odour, I think looking the neighbor in the eye, and discussing your concern in a cool, respectful manner is the way to address the situation. informing the bylaw people should be a last resort. The above is a good example of what sort of reaction that step can generate.

I think it's important that people spend time trying to cultivate a friendly relationship with their neighbors, as soon as possible after moving in. Things like taking over a welcome present, having conversations over an adjoining fence, discussing common interests like kids, dogs, sports etc. are all things that help develop a rapport.

We have lived in our house for over 50 years, and I guess we have been lucky, as we have never had a bad neighbor.

In a perfect world this is great. Tell me your next step when the neighbour just says, 'mind your fataing business' and closes the door in your face.

[ResAlien]

Well then you could go cry to by law but at least you tried to be a decent person first instead of running for help right off the bat.

[stampsx2]

Sliver i don’t agree with you that all pitbulls should be euthanized. I would change it to all aggressive dogs (who don’t have licensed trained owners like the police) should be euthanized. Shouldn’t even be a discussion. If there’s any hint of dog agression to any other dog, pet or human the dog should be put down if they don’t have a licensed owner.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Well then you could go cry to by law but at least you tried to be a decent person first instead of running for help right off the bat.

How about the dog owner show decency and prohibit his dog from barking while also cleaning up the ####? The original transgression by the indecent person was allowing the dog to infringe on my right to enjoy my property peacefully and free from the smell of a thousand pieces of ####. They're the a-hole; not me.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Sliver i don’t agree with you that all pitbulls should be euthanized. I would change it to all aggressive dogs (who don’t have licensed trained owners like the police) should be euthanized. Shouldn’t even be a discussion. If there’s any hint of dog agression to any other dog, pet or human the dog should be put down if they don’t have a licensed owner.

Good point. I'd definitely be open to casting a wider net.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Sliver

In a perfect world this is great. Tell me your next step when the neighbour just says, 'mind your fataing business' and closes the door in your face.

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[Dentoman]

This thread has me heading into the backyard this afternoon.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Dion

I think your Dad is the ####### here for being so petty. I can just imagine how that anger he had inside him onsumed him as he took revenge on his neighbour. IMO it's a very sad to live a life.

lol, he never went out of his way to inconvenience them, he just did what he wanted with no regard if they liked it. They set the tone of their relationship by trying to hit him with a big ass fine, he owes them nothing. He's a very content man who goes out of his way to avoid conflict, but he's not going to suffer a little bitch of a neighbour (who is a healthy grown man).

[81MC]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Sliver i don’t agree with you that all pitbulls should be euthanized. I would change it to all aggressive dogs (who don’t have licensed trained owners like the police) should be euthanized. Shouldn’t even be a discussion. If there’s any hint of dog agression to any other dog, pet or human the dog should be put down if they don’t have a licensed owner.

But you don’t own a dog, so who would you let have the day in what ‘aggressive’ behaviour is? Would you be the one who sees a dog snarl at another and report it as aggressive behaviour?

Yes, aggressive dogs should be dealt with. Euthanizing an animal because a hint of aggression? In whose eyes? What, so Sliver can claim his neighbours dog was acting aggressive to him and bylaw comes out and puts the animal down?

[jayswin]

When you read so many conflicts between neighbours online it always makes me so happy that I've always had great neighbours, where the relationship is always friendly and normal. Especially being a laid back, friendly person, I just despise conflict and negative feelings towards others and certainly don't want that right outside my house.

Even if you don't see them a lot, it means a lot for my well being to just walk outside, see them and go "oh hey! how's it going!" with a smile and good feelings, rather than a darker or non existent transaction. Our society is getting cold enough between strangers, it's at least nice to like your neighbours.

[Matata]

Everyone I deal with in real life is reasonable, friendly and kind, I have to go online to find people to get mad at me.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by 81MC

But you don’t own a dog, so who would you let have the day in what ‘aggressive’ behaviour is? Would you be the one who sees a dog snarl at another and report it as aggressive behaviour?

Yes, aggressive dogs should be dealt with. Euthanizing an animal because a hint of aggression? In whose eyes? What, so Sliver can claim his neighbours dog was acting aggressive to him and bylaw comes out and puts the animal down?

Then if you’re concerned the bar might be too low then it would be best to go through the licensing process. Your dog wouldn’t be put down then.