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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
How are they going to fix that team though? They added Hall and Staal who are useful players and they still stink. I've never bought into the Krueger hype as I don't think he's a great head coach but they have been through a lot maybe similar to the Flames in that they haven't really hired a good one. Blysma had pedigree but things have gone south for him since the end of his Penguins tenure and he hasn't had a job since the Sabres fired him. They are similar to the Flames in that they probably need a big roster shakeup and maybe nobody should be untouchable on either roster.
No idea....i dont really have a clue what the issues are with that club, they should be so much better than they are and have been.
No one really knows what makes their GM tick either, being on the job less than a year and starting it all in the middle of a pandemic. I would think he is using this season as little more than one of observation before deciding how to proceed both long and short term.
I do know that trading Eichel is the opposite of making the team better though, even if its possible that long-term it may be the right move. Mind you having Skinner signed longer term than Eichel, there may be some cap pressure they can do nothing about in a couple years.
No matter who/what goes the other way in any hypothetical deal though, the team that gets Eichel gets the best player and 99% likely that is a by a longshot. And in general whoever gets the best player wins the trade no matter what.
So in that sense, if Eichel is on the table....not sure there is an untouchable on this roster to get it done.
Is that how the Flames get better? Trade their top center for a 30 year old top four defenseman? I don't see anything on the Predators' roster that makes me want to cough up a center.
I definitely don't think the solution to our woes is to trade a centre for another defenseman.
I definitely don't think the solution to our woes is to trade a centre for another defenseman.
Well, I'm not saying straight up. I said do a deal around those two. Plus:
- Get a decent price for Monahan while you can.
- Bring in a very good top pairing Dman who is 30 years old. (only 1 more year on contract though)
- Leave 37 year old Giordano exposed for the expansion draft.
If Jack Eichel is available this season/offseason, Treliving should do everything in his power to include Monahan as the main piece. Eichel on the scoring line + Backlund on the shutdown line would be a heck of a 1-2 punch. I wouldn't include Matthew Tkachuk because his ability to play in a shutdown role is too important to lose. I can only imagine how "jacked" up he would be on game days when we play the Oilers and the man selected ahead of Connor McDavid.
I don't know what Buffalo's appetite for a futures only deal would be, but anything in the Flames cupboard should be available. I assume they'd want a Valimaki or maybe a Hanifin. I'd do either. Multiple first rounders, that's a yes. If the Flames have to almost empty out the cupboards to get a Jack Eichel then so be it.
There’s no way the flames should be moving Tkachuk. I would retain half of Johnny’s salary and move him to a contender for pieces Buffalo wants and do the same with Gio. Then package those pieces with Monahan for Eichle. If we have to add some picks as a sweetener, so be it. If Eichle is available you move heaven and earth to aquire him while changing the team’s culture and eliminating the chance of losing someone of value in the expansion draft.
I don't make the trade, bit that's just what I think the package would have to include. Again, if we had Eichel would trade him for anything less than that? Not a chance. That is what I would expect, otherwise I sit on my franchise center and wait until someone coughs up package like that. If they don't, damn, I have to sit on my franchise centerman.
If Eichel were to be made available, I keep thinking something around Monahan and Tkachuk for Eichel as the main pieces.
If you can somehow sell them on Monahan plus futures, that would be amazing. Depending on the futures though, you've got to think someone would come along and beat that offer.
IF Eichel and the Sabres part ways, I could see the Kings making a top notch offer, and you have to think the Sabres would much rather send Eichel out west.
Not too sure why Eichel is even a topic of conversation. The Rangers will offer up Kakko or Lafrieniere +,and that will be it.
The Sabres aren’t going to be interested in Monahan and some other pieces, why would they? They will likely get a few offers that will blow that out of the water.
Laine and Dubois just forced themselves out of their cities.
I agree that a trade would begin with Tkachuk, and that's fine simply because Eichel is that good. At the same time, if they ask Tkachuk and Lindholm/Monahan I would want Buffalo to add, so that's where the give/take line is.
Tkachuk as a base would trump most offers in the league, the divisional games with Ottawa would be a marketing goldmine.
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Laine and Dubois just forced themselves out of their cities.
I agree that a trade would begin with Tkachuk, and that's fine simply because Eichel is that good. At the same time, if they ask Tkachuk and Lindholm/Monahan I would want Buffalo to add, so that's where the give/take line is.
Tkachuk as a base would trump most offers in the league, the divisional games with Ottawa would be a marketing goldmine.
Doesn’t Eichel have like 4 more years on his deal? Laine was expiring to RFA and Dubois was on a 2 year bridge.
