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Old 02-18-2021, 11:28 AM   #7221
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The Flames are not looking like a team that should be adding players this season. They can't afford to be losing picks and prospects. They need those players to replace guys on there way out. Imo Gio and Backlund should be trade deadline moves. I'd only keep Backlund if Bennett moves instead

Right now the Flames are probably losing Tanev in expansion draft. He is our best defenseman. Gio at this point shouldn't be protected. If that the case they might as well move him

Backlund too. I think he could get us a quality return. Bennett can move to center and we need to look at 2021 draft and positioning for expansion draft. This team is very young still minus Gio and Backlund they are one of youngest in league.

Next summer Johnny can be extended. If he doesn't then he might have to go too but no backs and gio makes resigning players a ton easier and selling might get us a top prospect this draft
You will get ripped for this take but I agree with you except I don’t think we lose Tanev because we should protect him and expose Gio. Gio can say he will retire if picked and deter Seattle from picking him.

In a perfect world we would trade Backlund for an expansion exempt RWer and slot Bennett into the 3rd line center role and be able to protect him but I know none of this will happen.

In reality we will not make any trades, keep the coach and protect Backlund and Gio only lose Bennett or Tanev for nothing.

It’s painful cheering for this team.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:05 PM   #7222
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:07 PM   #7223
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Friedman is turning in to an instigator

He should call Eichel’s agent and see if he is open to a change of scene
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:09 PM   #7224
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Friedman is turning in to an instigator

He should call Eichel’s agent and see if he is open to a change of scene
He's been lowkey doing that for a while, always following up with the "whoa, I was just saying" response when it blows up as intended.
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Friedman is turning in to an instigator
I found it funny on his 31 Thoughts podcast episode following the Bennett report he put out.

He said something about "once the report got out, neither the player or the team were happy that the trade request had leaked", as if he wasn't the one that went digging and then threw it out on national TV...
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Friedman is turning in to an instigator

He should call Eichel’s agent and see if he is open to a change of scene
Good idea, we need him stirring up stuff on other teams so we can swoop in!
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:21 PM   #7227
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I found it funny on his 31 Thoughts podcast episode following the Bennett report he put out.

He said something about "once the report got out, neither the player or the team were happy that the trade request had leaked", as if he wasn't the one that went digging and then threw it out on national TV...

Exactly. And even in his initial report, the phrasing wasn’t directly about a trade request, it was about if he would be open to a change of scene, and the agent’s response was that he would be open to it. Reportedly blindsided Tre.

Be great to see him take his act to other teams
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:22 PM   #7228
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Not that I think the Sabres would ever trade Eichel, but what the hell.

Monahan, Tkachuk, Bennett for Eichel and Hall

Then extend Hall

Gaudreau - Eichel - XXXX
Hall - Lindholm - XXXX


Major shake up, improvement on the speed in the top 6 as well. Incentive for Johnny to sign a long term deal to stay on Eichel's wing.

Then bring in an actual real NHL coach.
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If that man becomes available, you tell the Sabres that anybody here is on the table.
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We are not going to have a shot at Eichel in my opinion even if Tkachuk is on the table.

He is going to likely want to play for the Rangers, Kings or Hawks as examples and they can all blow our offers out of the water. Maybe the Rangers offer Lafreniere and Kakko along with the cap they need to send.

Tkachuk might be of interest to Buffalo but guys like Monahan, Gaudreau who have very little team control left are not moving the needle for the Sabres.
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We are not going to have a shot at Eichel in my opinion even if Tkachuk is on the table.

He is going to likely want to play for the Rangers, Kings or Hawks as examples and they can all blow our offers out of the water. Maybe the Rangers offer Lafreniere and Kakko along with the cap they need to send.

Tkachuk might be of interest to Buffalo but guys like Monahan, Gaudreau who have very little team control left are not moving the needle for the Sabres.

He can want to play for whomever - but according to capfriendly Eichel does not have an NTC or NMC until 2022-23, so he will have to go where he is told.
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He can want to play for whomever - but according to capfriendly Eichel does not have an NTC or NMC until 2022-23, so he will have to go where he is told.
End of the day I doubt that is here. We don’t have great assets that Buffalo will want. All we can offer is lesser players who are similar aged or older
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:02 PM   #7233
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2021 1st 2022 1st Johnny, Monahan, Zary, for Eichel
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:28 PM   #7234
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2021 1st 2022 1st Johnny, Monahan, Zary, for Eichel
Depends on timing of deal. Maybe draft day 2021 and our pick is already set. Right now this team can't afford to make that trade. Probably not in off season but definitely not right now

Covid is going to make in season deals tough for Canadian teams. If eichel needs to sit for 14 days and the Flames need to be without him and johnny and Monahan for 7 to 8 games. Kind of cripples their chances of making playoffs
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2021 1st 2022 1st Johnny, Monahan, Zary, for Eichel

Mr. Risebrough?
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2021 1st 2022 1st Johnny, Monahan, Zary, for Eichel
what is this offer
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Mr. Risebrough?
Lol could you imagine if the Flames missed the playoffs by a mile and those picks were top 5 picks. That trade would be some awful

I get teams need elite centers to be elite teams but you still need more. Otherwise your team is well like Buffalo or Edmonton? The oilers have 2 elite centers and its got them where?
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:56 PM   #7238
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Eichel+Skinner $19M cap
For
Monahan+Tkachuk+Bennett+Ryan 19.075M cap

Gaudreau-Eichel-Mangiapane
Skinner-Lindholm-Dube
Lucic-Backlund-Leivo
Ritchie-Gawdin-Simon

I don’t really like that forward group but gets the Flames Eichel. Keeping Johnny becomes key here.
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Old 02-18-2021, 04:06 PM   #7239
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Switch Bennett and Ryan for Lucic maybe...that Skinner contract is bad and feel like Buffalo can take a less bad contract back.

Eichel+Skinner

for

Gaudreau + Monahan + Lucic + Conditional 1st (Feel like Buffalo will want a pick in the deal no matter what)

Tkachuk - Eichel - Mangiapane
Skinner - Lindholm - Dube
Bennett - Backlund - Leivo
Simon - Ryan - Gawdin

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Old 02-18-2021, 04:31 PM   #7240
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He can want to play for whomever - but according to capfriendly Eichel does not have an NTC or NMC until 2022-23, so he will have to go where he is told.
He may not have a NTC, but if a player of his stature comes out and says he wants to be moved - he will be moved. And will have some ability to influence where.
But probably not to Calgary.
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