Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau Appreciation thread

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Must be me then? Monahan is atrocious at controlled entries (worst on the team?) but last night seemed particularly ugly to me. I have no doubt that some of it is due to having Johnny as a linemate. When Johnny is on the ice, just give him the puck kind of thing. Gaudreau ranks as one of the best in the league at it. Anyway, I hope Monahan continues to work at it.

‘Controlled Entries’ is a great example of where the tableau crowd lost the plot.

Most centres not named mackinnon or mcdavid should not be making controlled entries. They are likely in the middle of the ice. Likely have a player or two in support that are charging ahead, and likely have a defensemen stepping up on them because backing in giving up the middle is usually stupid.

There’s no actual stat for it, but if there were a centre with 13 on his wing absolutely should be near the bottom of the list. That’s a win.

[SportsJunky]

I take your point but many top centres are doing a great job of entry.
Guys like, Larkin, Scheifele, Eichel, Backstrom, are all in the high 80th or 90th percentile.

Anyway, moo point because Monahan has Johnny and if I had Johnny on my wing, I'd let him bring it into the zone, too.

[SportsJunky]

I don't think anyone posted this Haynes tweet from last night.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1354543210102624257

[browna]

Not sure if posted somewhere else, but Johnny was on the latest Spitting Chiclets.

Starts at 42:24 addressing the bogus rumor about him being out of shape in the bubble. And a bunch of stories and interesting things you don't get from the mainstream media, the local reporters or scrubbed Flames social media accounts.

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcas...=1000508301464

[Monahammer]

Bumping this thread as I saw my boy Sean Monahan was catching some disrespect in the PGT.

The dynamic duo is back! They have been our unquestionable offensive leaders (+Lindy) so far this season, and are doing so in unforeseen ways: Johnny the triggerman with some sweet apples from Moneyhands.

Johnny 9-7-16
Money 2-10-12

Monahan is playing great defense too- he has married that mean streak he started developing last year to more consistency in the middle of the ice and it is showing. Johnny, what more is there to say. His shot has been lethal this year, and goalies are starting to fear him again. I bet he will score on one of those sharp angle shots this season.

how much of a fudging idiot do I look like for wanting to trade johnny and sign Hall this offseason. This is why I dont get to make important hockey decisions.

[looooob]

with Johnny's next goal he will tie Pepper, and his next assist he will tie Nieuwendyk on the Flames all time leaderboard


with his next 6 points Monahan will sneak past Pepper, Otto and then Loob for alltime point scoring



interesting company

[Winsor_Pilates]

These guys aren't the Sedins; we need to stop talking about them as 1.

Gaudreau is having a great season.
Monahan is having a fairly mediocre season but doing well on the PP and/or getting points off Gaudreau.

Monahan made 2 brutal giveaways for goals Saturday and made another terrible giveaway in the offensive zone last night which led to 2 minutes of prolonged pressure by the Canucks and almost tying it up.

He is however good on the PP and good and made a good pass on the winning goal.
Monahan is what he is and he's not Johnny Gaudreau.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

These guys aren't the Sedins; we need to stop talking about them as 1.

Gaudreau is having a great season.
Monahan is having a fairly mediocre season but doing well on the PP and/or getting points off Gaudreau.

Monahan made 2 brutal giveaways for goals Saturday and made another terrible giveaway in the offensive zone last night which led to 2 minutes of prolonged pressure by the Canucks and almost tying it up.

He is however good on the PP and good and made a good pass on the winning goal.
Monahan is what he is and he's not Johnny Gaudreau.

Conversation overheard in the desert:

"Dude, look at this half full glass of water we have!"
"Man, get out of here with that half empty glass of water!"

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Conversation overheard in the desert:

"Dude, look at this half full glass of water we have!"
"Man, get out of here with that half empty glass of water!"

Conversation overheard in the desert:

""Dude, look at this full glass of water we have!"
"Man, this empty glass beside it is also amazing by automatic association"

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

These guys aren't the Sedins; we need to stop talking about them as 1...

I can get behind this, but then to see you translate the idea into "Gaudreau Good! Monahan Bad!" is just a farce. They are both great players in their own right who help one another succeed.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

These guys aren't the Sedins; we need to stop talking about them as 1.

Gaudreau is having a great season.
Monahan is having a fairly mediocre season but doing well on the PP and/or getting points off Gaudreau.

Monahan made 2 brutal giveaways for goals Saturday and made another terrible giveaway in the offensive zone last night which led to 2 minutes of prolonged pressure by the Canucks and almost tying it up.

He is however good on the PP and good and made a good pass on the winning goal.
Monahan is what he is and he's not Johnny Gaudreau.

LOL. Monahan scores a bunch in past season - he’s just getting points from Gaudreau. This year he feeds Gaudreau a bunch (including some really nice passes) and he’s “getting points off Gaudreau”.

As for individual plays, I never focus on those because mistakes happen. He partially fanned on one pass which Gaudreau didn’t pick up on (the poor ice didn’t help) and he got blocked on a pass. He was also a big part of Bennett’s goal and had two great chances himself.

This is IMO Monahan’s best start to a season in a while despite not having goals.

https://www.nhl.com/video/t-321145416/c-7516806

[CroFlames]

TIL Monahan is as useless as an empty glass of water in the desert.

Tough crowd.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I can get behind this, but then to see you translate the idea into "Gaudreau Good! Monahan Bad!" is just a farce. They are both great players in their own right who help one another succeed.

I didn't say he's bad.
I said he has been fairly mediocre this season, made some bad giveaways in the last 2 games but also been good on the PP and made some nice passes to Gaudreau.

What do you think of his play this season?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

TIL Monahan is as useless as an empty glass of water in the desert.

Tough crowd.

I was just responding to a dumb post with the dumb response it warranted.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I didn't say he's bad.
I said he has been fairly mediocre this season, made some bad giveaways in the last 2 games but also been good on the PP and made some nice passes to Gaudreau.

What do you think of his play this season?

I think his play has been very good. He is snake-bitten right now which is why his goal-total is so low, but I am not the least bit worried—the chances are there; it is only a matter of time before he starts scoring. Meanwhile, Monahan is moving the puck well, and actually carrying it through the neutral zone more than he has maybe since his rookie season. He is playing MUCH better than last year, and deserves a tonne of credit for the fact that Gaudreau leads the team in goals.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think his play has been very good. He is snake-bitten right now which is why his goal-total is so low, but I am not the least bit worried—the chances are there; it is only a matter of time before he starts scoring. Meanwhile, Monahan is moving the puck well, and actually carrying it through the neutral zone more than he has maybe since his rookie season. He is playing MUCH better than last year, and deserves a tonne of credit for the fact that Gaudreau leads the team in goals.

I’m far more concerned about Tkachuk’s game than Monahan’s.

[Monahammer]

GTFO here with that talk. No one asserted they were one. They are both playing great this year.

This thread is not for discussing the relative play of other players, nor for comparing the relative play of these players. It is to praise these players for taking the criticisms that we fans levied at them over the last few seasons to heart and really showing us they are pros this year. They deserve that praise. And we deserve to eat crow in some respects. Myself included!

[SnipeShow]

Hard to say Mony has had a bad season when he's looks relatively solid defensively most of the time, he's been more physical this year, and has made some glorious passed for a number of Johnny's goals this year. He'd even have a fair number of goals if his shooting percentage wasnt a career low so far. His goals will come.

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[ComixZone]

Monahan:

CF%: 50
SF%: 47.45
GF%: 69.23
xGF%: 53.88
SCF%: 51.11
HDCF%: 50.68
HDGF%: 66.67
MDCF%: 51.40
MDGF%: 66.67

I'm not sure where people this idea that Monahan has been bad this season. Monahan is also shooting a pitiful 5.7% right now, which is 8.9% below his career average. He's unfortunately only at 47.3% in the face-off dot (career average is 50.2%), so hopefully that goes back to his average.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'm not sure where people this idea that Monahan has been bad this season.

It's very simple. Monahan has never won anything in the playoffs. And here it is already late February, and he still hasn't won in the playoffs this season, so obviously he's a bad player.

So what if he does win in the playoffs this year? Well, we already know that won't happen because he's a bad player who never wins in the playoffs.

That really is the level of logic we're dealing with from some posters.