[PGT] Flames beat Vancouver 4-3 in OVERTIME

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

“Completely correct” in what? What was “correct” about the statement. That it’s false hope? Okay? So, then what?

His comment was two sentences. Pretty easy to figure out what he’s right about. This perpetual mediocrity gives management just enough hope to keep the core together, though we know exactly where this ends: A fourth place finish in the North division, followed by a 6-game first round loss in which we are drastically outshot in each game.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think many of us realize that this is another version of the same Flames team we see year after year spinning its wheels under Treliving but I can't imagine cheering against them. Little doubt the Knights or Avs would crush the Flames in a 7 game series but that still doesn't mean I would take any less enjoyment from watching the Flames win games especially over rival teams. For better or worse this is a team that's going to be in the running for the last playoff spot in the division and given how terrible the division is they may even be able to win their first round matchup. To me that doesn't make for a successful season but it's still a lot better than being the Canucks or Senators.

I can’t really bring myself to cheer against them either, and I did enjoy the victory last night, but they’re hollow victories.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

His comment was two sentences. Pretty easy to figure out what he’s right about. This perpetual mediocrity gives management just enough hope to keep the core together, though we know exactly where this ends: A fourth place finish in the North division, followed by a 6-game first round loss in which we are drastically outshot in each game.

But this also assumes that there is a realistic alternative. The Flames have a core group of players in their mid-twenties, and just signed a UFA goalie to a six-year deal. Like it or not, this is the team for the foreseeable future. It makes no sense to me that a fan would whine and bitch about wins in a situation like this.

Also, I am pretty confident that the Flames can win a playoff round or two in the Canadian Division.

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[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It’s crazy.

Once the team got down 2-0 it looks like the dmen were given the green light to pinch more and activate and they looked great.

Once we got the lead again then back to playing super passive from the back end in the third.

Don’t know why it takes getting a deficit to allow our dmen to jump up, tell them to play like that from the first minute.

That's completely ignoring the opposition though.

The Canucks get a two goal lead and step back on the forecheck a bit until they get down and then the push again.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

I can’t really bring myself to cheer against them either, and I did enjoy the victory last night, but they’re hollow victories.

"Hollow victories." Please. For as poor as the Flames have looked at times they have won 6 of their last 9 games, with 7 of those on the road. I hope you are preparing yourself for a lot of disappointment, because they are going to win a lot more games over the next three months.

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[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

I can’t really bring myself to cheer against them either, and I did enjoy the victory last night, but they’re hollow victories.

Alright fortune teller. At least you’ve set yourself up for a big “I told you so”.

[Robbob]

I know people want to win every game big, but sometimes I don't think people give enough credit to the opposition. Canucks play a very structured game and don't give up a lot. At the end of the day Flames are 4-1 against a rival team so far this season. Ugly wins are still wins.

A little rough out of the gate and all the penalties took them off their game early, but the team was able to rebound and started to play better as the game went on. I do agree the team is missing a component right now or not firing on all cylinders. The optimist in me thinks that if the Tkachuk line can be a bit better 5v5, then it will have a domino effect.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

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[iloveicedhockey]

Thanks, I'm such a forum technology noob. Also, there's some colourful language in the second tweet. I know this is a wholesome place but don't know what can be done about it.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

But this also assumes that there is a realistic alternative. The Flames have a core group of players in their mid-twenties, and just signed a UFA goalie to a six-year deal. Like it or not, this is the team for the foreseeable future. It makes no sense to me that a fan would whine and bitch about wins in a situation like this.

Also, I am pretty confident that the Flames can win a playoff round or two in the Canadian Division.

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The realistic alternative would be shaking up the core, which was talked about in the off season. I was really hoping they'd do that, and many thought it was almost a sure thing. But then we signed an elite goalie, which is great, but all it's going to do is mask our pre-existing issues.

And yes, I'm prepared to see just enough victories over the next few months to get us into 4th place. If this team wins a round, they might get my attention, but I'm not going to allow myself to become too invested again. Though even if we do win a round, if we ever have to play Vegas or Colorado? Yikes. Might close my eyes for that one. And there lies the problem.

The goal is to win championships, not squeak into the playoffs and become fodder. To jump down this posters' throat for an opinion is ridiculous. Especially considering you all know deep down his opinion is correct.

I'd like to be a contender, or a team that's on the path to being one. Right now, we're neither.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Alright fortune teller. At least you’ve set yourself up for a big “I told you so”.

Or perhaps I’m drawing on this core’s performance since 2014.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

The goal is to win championships, not squeak into the playoffs and become fodder. To jump down this posters' throat for an opinion is ridiculous. Especially considering you all know deep down his opinion is correct.

I'd like to be a contender, or a team that's on the path to being one. Right now, we're neither.

1. You called us short sighted based on our opinion
2. Your last point is postulation

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Was it just me or did it look like Johnny was hesitant to pass to Simon tonight?

Wasn't just you- Simon is a nice guy but I would hesitate to pass to him as well.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Monahan has 10 assists and Johnny has 9 goals

Seanny Gaudreau and John Monahan?

Monahan is in the right places but has no confidence shooting right now. If he was his normal self, he'd easily have another 5-6 goals. Good to see him contribute by making plays for Johnny though. I'm sure he'll regain his scoring touch.

The dynamic duo has has a strong start. Backlund and Mangiapane also strong Lindholm looking great at centre. Better balanced D. Great goaltending. Perplexing that the team is still so mediocre despite all that. I think you really do have to look at coaching.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm really enjoying fanbases from other teams and even media crying about how dirty the Flames are at that MT is absolute scum.


My response is we need to be even more brutal, and despicable. If you're going to be hated, be hated, bath is your dirtiness, take liberties, punish teams, be poor sports. This is pro hockey not a tea party.


For too many years we stood back while other teams played a nastier game then the Flames, now the shoes on the other foot. I mean Oiler fans crying about how dirty the Flames are is laughable as long as they have the ultimate liberty taking spot picker in the league in Kassian. And one of the biggest weak ankled divers in the game in McDavid.



I'd like a Flames philosophy built around the phrase that parents in the 50's used. "Hey you want me to really give you something to cry about?"


I want to be part of the most hated fan base in the league, that supports the most hated team. I don't want the terms classy, and nice, and great to play against associated with the Flames on ice product.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

The realistic alternative would be shaking up the core, which was talked about in the off season. I was really hoping they'd do that, and many thought it was almost a sure thing. But then we signed an elite goalie, which is great, but all it's going to do is mask our pre-existing issues.

That might have happened had COVID-19 not created so many obstacles to making deals. We know for a fact that Treliving was in the mix for Pierre Lucic Dubois, so I am pretty sure he also sees exactly where this team needs a shakeup. I don't believe for a second that anyone in management is duped by pre-existing issues.

And yes, I'm prepared to see just enough victories over the next few months to get us into 4th place. If this team wins a round, they might get my attention, but I'm not going to allow myself to become too invested again. Though even if we do win a round, if we ever have to play Vegas or Colorado? Yikes. Might close my eyes for that one. And there lies the problem.

I guess we will see what happens. I think the Flames beat the Stars in the first round last year had Markstrom been in goal.

The goal is to win championships, not squeak into the playoffs and become fodder. To jump down this posters' throat for an opinion is ridiculous. Especially considering you all know deep down his opinion is correct.

I am not jumping down anyone's throat because of an opinion. I am rolling my eyes HARD at how some of these opinions are projected following a Flames win on the road while playing without their #2 centre.

I'd like to be a contender, or a team that's on the path to being one. Right now, we're neither.

That is just the cycle of sports, though. It is completely unrealistic to expect every team to either be contending or rebuilding. This is the group that is going to play out the season; if you are a fan, why not enjoy as much of it as you can?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by handgroen

when we were down 2-0 mangiapane was taking it to the canucks, that guy hates to lose.
also how about the hateful lindholm interview in the break? "i know what an elbow looks like in this building" forever a flame for this guy.

Let's be honest: if any one of us was as beautiful as Elias Lindholm we would all suffer from acute anxiety about sticks, fists and elbows in our perfectly chiselled faces.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

Thanks, I'm such a forum technology noob. Also, there's some colourful language in the second tweet. I know this is a wholesome place but don't know what can be done about it.

Yikes I missed that, thanks.

Yeah someone explained how in a thread a couple months back and I managed to catch it and retain the info!

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The bump back was performed well by Monahan here too. Easier because it’s 4-3 but the little thing he did where instead of going straight on with the bump back but curled a little to the left to drag the defender a little to the left with him, to then throw it further to the right for Gaudreau on the pass back opens up so much room on the right side for the entry.

The bump back can be a very effective way to break into the offensive zone as a unit, and this was a good example, but there have been far more horrible examples as the season goes on. It's overused and there are typically two guys way way behind the play standing there flat-footed. Half the time the puck doesn't even get to one of them and the whole team has to retreat. The OT poweplay was clinical entry and all but the PP has otherwise been dreadful the past 3 games.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

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Glad the team won but this game had it's shares of frustration. Started out being angry at the 1st period and at the very end. But overall the team played much better. Markstrom will continue to be my Lord and saviour.

I know everyone loves Zamler's posts, and Gaskal's ATL, and for good reason too.

But I just wanted to stop and say that I now look forward to your crazy bat#### clips more than anything else in a winning PGT. That last one had me laughing quite a lot. Keep on shinin' you crazy diamond!