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Old 02-10-2021, 12:23 AM   #2221
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Well I realize we now need a term for whatever an upside down Kangaroo court is, where people with the specific power and authority to levee punishment hold a sham trial with no intention of exercising their responsibilities in the face of all evidence, so Trump will 100% escape accountability.

But I sincerely hope that a the very least some of those people taking pictures of official government documents are charged with espionage, and get to enjoy some government housing for the next 20 years, that is just crazy flipping through a senators papers with a rolling video camera, saying there has to be something here we can use against this guy.

I also know they haven't indicated they will do it, but I have no understanding of how they can run this trial without subpoenaing Trump. It seems completely irrational to me that you wouldn't let him perjure himself here, because he is incapable of honesty or even taking the 5th.
I vote for 'Koala Bear trial', it's an Australian marsupial that is both riddled by herpes and has an very unpleasant temprement by all accounts despite its looks, 2 out of 3 similarities to Trump aint bad
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Well I realize we now need a term for whatever an upside down Kangaroo court is, where people with the specific power and authority to levee punishment hold a sham trial with no intention of exercising their responsibilities in the face of all evidence, so Trump will 100% escape accountability.

But I sincerely hope that a the very least some of those people taking pictures of official government documents are charged with espionage, and get to enjoy some government housing for the next 20 years, that is just crazy flipping through a senators papers with a rolling video camera, saying there has to be something here we can use against this guy.

I also know they haven't indicated they will do it, but I have no understanding of how they can run this trial without subpoenaing Trump. It seems completely irrational to me that you wouldn't let him perjure himself here, because he is incapable of honesty or even taking the 5th.
While I agree with the sentiment, the fact is that this is not a trial court. The Senate can make whatever rules it wants. I am not sure if one can perjure oneself in this context, but either way, there is no chance Trump would/should answer questions (from his legal team's perspective).
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:22 AM   #2223
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I vote for 'Koala Bear trial', it's an Australian marsupial that is both riddled by herpes and has an very unpleasant temprement by all accounts despite its looks, 2 out of 3 similarities to Trump aint bad
Chlamydia, not herpes.
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if those GOP senators were even a bit receptive to the things said during these arguments, this trial would be a cakewalk. Dems came prepared ... Raskin and Neguse have been excellent. Too bad it'll be all in vain.
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if those GOP senators were even a bit receptive to the things said during these arguments, this trial would be a cakewalk. Dems came prepared ... Raskin and Neguse have been excellent. Too bad it'll be all in vain.
it provides reams of election material for the Dem's though, this is all aimed at the purple races
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New video shows officer Eugene Goodman saving Mitt Romney's life most likely.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...al-two-vpx.cnn

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...saved-n1257384

""I was very fortunate indeed that Officer Goodman was there to get me in the right direction," Romney, R-Utah, told reporters Wednesday after the video demonstrated how close he came to the pro-Trump mob that stormed the Capitol.

"I did not know that was Officer Goodman. I look forward to thanking him when I next see him," Romney said.

I expressed my appreciation to him for coming to my aid and getting me back into the path of safety and express my appreciation for all that he did that day," Romney told reporters.


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Clearly God got lazy with his writing when he sent down an angel to save the US’s democracy by naming him Goodman.
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Last night they showed a disturbing photograph. The man who FBI are looking for, for gouging out the eye of a capital police officer was shown with his thumb actually in the eye of the officer, while he was kneeling on the ground. I hope they catch that guy right away. What a piece of scum.
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New video shows officer Eugene Goodman saving Mitt Romney's life most likely.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...al-two-vpx.cnn

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...saved-n1257384

""I was very fortunate indeed that Officer Goodman was there to get me in the right direction," Romney, R-Utah, told reporters Wednesday after the video demonstrated how close he came to the pro-Trump mob that stormed the Capitol.

"I did not know that was Officer Goodman. I look forward to thanking him when I next see him," Romney said.

I expressed my appreciation to him for coming to my aid and getting me back into the path of safety and express my appreciation for all that he did that day," Romney told reporters.


CNN did a summary video of multiple clips from the hearing (including the ones in your video so a little bit of duplication here), I found it also interesting as it has more clips of camera footage. I don't know how to link it directly.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/polit...ent/index.html

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if those GOP senators were even a bit receptive to the things said during these arguments, this trial would be a cakewalk. Dems came prepared ... Raskin and Neguse have been excellent. Too bad it'll be all in vain.
But let's also not pretend that there isn't a gleeful amount of over the top partisanship going on here. If Trump gets convicted in the senate, does he have any recourse, can he appeal? Maybe they should have tried him in a real court of law.

Just look at CNN this morning and compare their coverage to say Politico, it's like they're using buckets of gasoline in reporting this.

It's bad what happened but I'm not sure they're going about it the right way. Mob justice is not justice.
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But let's also not pretend that there isn't a gleeful amount of over the top partisanship going on here. If Trump gets convicted in the senate, does he have any recourse, can he appeal? Maybe they should have tried him in a real court of law.

Just look at CNN this morning and compare their coverage to say Politico, it's like they're using buckets of gasoline in reporting this.

It's bad what happened but I'm not sure they're going about it the right way. Mob justice is not justice.
Whatever can be done to down play Trump's complicity. Never mind the storming of the seat of Democracy, this is far too partisan.
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But let's also not pretend that there isn't a gleeful amount of over the top partisanship going on here. If Trump gets convicted in the senate, does he have any recourse, can he appeal? Maybe they should have tried him in a real court of law.

Just look at CNN this morning and compare their coverage to say Politico, it's like they're using buckets of gasoline in reporting this.

It's bad what happened but I'm not sure they're going about it the right way. Mob justice is not justice.
I just went to CNN and I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Do you have examples of what you mean about their coverage?
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I just went to CNN and I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Do you have examples of what you mean about their coverage?
Its just over the top, with the large fonts and "Trumps Lack of remorse", it was something else this morning as well.
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It says the Democrats are going to target his lack of remorse. That's the strategy of the lawyers coming up soon and CNN is just reporting it. What do you want CNN to do? Not report on it?
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Its just over the top, with the large fonts and "Trumps Lack of remorse", it was something else this morning as well.
The headline looks to be "Democrats target Trump's lack of remorse". And then from the article on CNN, it says the following:
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The House impeachment managers plan to conclude their case against former President Trump on Thursday by zeroing in on Trump’s lack of remorse following the deadly attack and going further into the role he played, according to senior aides on the impeachment team.

The managers also intend to examine the harm that the attack caused to the people in the Capitol, including beyond just the physical scars, the aides said.
Aren't they literally just reporting on what is happening? Doesn't seem sensationalized to me, but I'm open to hearing why it is. I live in fear of ending up in a bubble like the Trumpists did lol.
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Media better get back to real scandals that demand outrage, like wearing a tan suit or something else unbecoming of a President. This sedition stuff is just partisan tripe.
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Its just over the top, with the large fonts and "Trumps Lack of remorse", it was something else this morning as well.
Over the top.........That is Trumps arena
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But let's also not pretend that there isn't a gleeful amount of over the top partisanship going on here. If Trump gets convicted in the senate, does he have any recourse, can he appeal? Maybe they should have tried him in a real court of law.

Just look at CNN this morning and compare their coverage to say Politico, it's like they're using buckets of gasoline in reporting this.

It's bad what happened but I'm not sure they're going about it the right way. Mob justice is not justice.
Mob justice????

You're actually comparing a trial, as set out by the rules in the constitution, to mob justice?

A trial that is about inciting an actual MOB?

What is mob justice about this?
A huge portion of the American people are rightly very angry about what happened.
What is inexcusable isn't that those people are angry and calling for repercussions, or that news stations are reporting on it, and are also expressing their own anger. What is inexcusable, is that there likely won't be any repercussions because 45% of the senate don't care about actual justice.
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Aren't they literally just reporting on what is happening? Doesn't seem sensationalized to me, but I'm open to hearing why it is. I live in fear of ending up in a bubble like the Trumpists did lol.
And that's kind of the point, you cant really blame Trump what some of these people did. People are accountable for their own actions.

Like that Shaman Qnon guy, did Trump tell him to dress like that for months leading up to this? And now he wants to testify against Trump and complaining about not getting organic food in prison.
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And that's kind of the point, you cant really blame Trump what some of these people did. People are accountable for their own actions.

Like that Shaman Qnon guy, did Trump tell him to dress like that for months leading up to this? And now he wants to testify against Trump and complaining about not getting organic food in prison.
If Trump doesn't have his DC rally, where he lies about a stolen election and tells his supporters to march to the capital, saying he'll be right there with them (note: he wasn't), there is no attempted insurrection and 5 people don't die. He was directly responsible for those events, what is so hard to comprehend about that?
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