It makes me sad that McDavid hasn't spent his career playing for a better organization. With Crosby, I loved watching him play and cheered for his success. I appreciated being able to watch a generational talent over his career. I enjoyed watching him in the Olympics and could fully cheer for him. I was excited when Iggy got traded to the Pens for a chance in the playoffs and to see them both on the same team. It would be nice to be able to cheer for McDavid. His skills are unreal, but he is tainted by playing for a garbage organization with a culture that makes them impossible to like and that stains the players too. I can watch that goal and recognize that it was a beauty, but I can't feel excited for him and the idea of cheering for him just grosses me out. I don't know what it will be like in the Beijing Olympics when we have to watch him in a Canada jersey.
Plus is it playing for the Oilers that makes him so whiny? The fan base up there makes sure he thinks he is a Saint that can do no wrong at all times.
And count me in as a guy who cringed at Johnny whining even though I cheer for the Flames. I'm glad he has toned it down this year especially.
But watching Conor flop around or complain to the refs about everything is getting very very old.
Jason Spezza has 32 points in 68 games since joining the Leafs. His five most common linemates during that time are Kasperi Kapanen, Pierre Engvall, Frederik Gauthier, Nic Petan and Kyle Clifford. Also he’s 37.
And that with getting around 10 minutes a game. The guy is pretty awesome. But Babcock benched him in his first game after signing with his hometown team in the homeopener against his team he is most associated with, the Sens because he wasn't able to penalty kill yet...What a prick.
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The standings will of course be funny this year, but after seeing the Oilers barely eke their way past the lowly Sens, I've realized that what we need are standings that exclude the free points given to the teams who have been lucky enough to play the Sens more than others so far (EDM 4-0, VAN 3-0). So, excluding games involving OTT, here are the standings:
The standings will of course be funny this year, but after seeing the Oilers barely eke their way past the lowly Sens, I've realized that what we need are standings that exclude the free points given to the teams who have been lucky enough to play the Sens more than others so far (EDM 4-0, VAN 3-0). So, excluding games involving OTT, here are the standings:
It's fine, since they will also go 10-0 v. the Oilers and Canucks.
I think they're gonna need to pick up at least 90% of the available points against the 3 weak sisters of the division, if they are to have a shot at 1st place.
I like how on NHL.com the have points % in the standings.
much more accurate way to view them instead of just by points, especially as I think there will be an uneven number of games played by each team, even in the North.
Put this here I guess? Laine, ex-member of Jets, gets in a fight. I'm sure Torts was creaming his pants but when that shot connected on Laine it didn't look good. He could have gotten really hurt. I wouldn't want my elite scorer out there getting knocked out.
Jason Spezza has 32 points in 68 games since joining the Leafs. His five most common linemates during that time are Kasperi Kapanen, Pierre Engvall, Frederik Gauthier, Nic Petan and Kyle Clifford. Also he’s 37.
And that with getting around 10 minutes a game. The guy is pretty awesome. But Babcock benched him in his first game after signing with his hometown team in the homeopener against his team he is most associated with, the Sens because he wasn't able to penalty kill yet...What a prick.
Draisaitl: 4.188 points per 60 minutes played
Spezza: 3.592 points per 60 minutes player
So Draisaitl only produces 14% more per hour of ice time.
Plus, a lot of Draisaitl's minutes on the PP. And, he plays with McDavid while not playing any defense.
By the way, Lucic (1.570) is 12th in the entire league in points per 60 minutes even strength. McDavid is 46th (1.010).
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Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year.
I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year. I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year.
I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
I would say that it is not far from the truth. Realistically the Oilers are a talented team on offense and have the ability to outscore most teams on any given night. Where they fall apart is on defense and goaltending. Those two go hand-in-hand because a goalie can't do everything on his own. The Oilers are just under 3 goals for per game that they lost so obviously that points towards the issue being more on the back end than the front as 3 goals should be leading towards more wins than losses. The Oilers are currently leading the league in goals for. Unfortunately they are also 4th in goals against. If they could reduce the goals against either through defense or just relying on solid goaltending they could easily be at the top of league for points.
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Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year.
I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
I am also living in BC, but have watched a lot of Oilers games this season. The Oilers do in fact have two crappy goalies, but this is not the only thing keeping them from total hockey dominance. The Oilers bleed chances. They rank #25 in shots-allowed. They are a bottom-five team in shooting-attempt splits, and are also in the bottom half for HD scoring chances allowed.
The Oilers are a tire-fire defensively, which is why they have surrendered more goals than everyone except for Ottawa, Vancouver and Columbus. It is why they have a 5-8-0 record v. every team that is not the Ottawa Senators.
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Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year.
I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
Thats just the usual delusion from their fanbase. Their record is a mirage right now with 4 wins against Ottawa.
The Oilers were dog treats at the start of the season, but seemed to have picked up their play due to confidence from the Ottawa gimmes. Their defense seems to be scoring at a ridiculous rate lately too which won't last. We NEED to win both games this weekend to send them back to the shadows where they belong.
Fair enough! maybe a rival team discussion board is not the best place to get a fair assessment, but at the same time I'm on this board because there are some very insightful and knowledgeable hockey people here who are very capable of giving a fair assessment. And maybe then I can balance that with the assessment I get from Oiler fans.
Good early example of that is CalgaryGeologist
Question for all of you, as I am living in BC and have only actually seen the Oilers play once this year, and then highlights. I have 2 friends who are die-hard Oiler homers and their latest narrative is that with even half decent goaltending they would be leading the division.
Now I laughed at them, but then I was reading the post game from last nights Jets/Oilers game and a number of Oiler fans are voicing the same opinion in that thread.
As I said to my friends there is a salary cap so just "adding a good goalie" (the example they used was if they had Markstrom) just can't work. But their response is that they are a good/great team with complete crap goaltending.
So for those of you living in Alberta with more opportunity to actually watch the Oilers, how would you actually describe the Oilers play this year.
I put this here, because I was hoping for a fairly unbiased response and figured this was a much more likely place to get that than in the E=NG thread.
First of all, it's a pretty laughable take that a .500 team would be leading the division with better goaltending.
Their D is just not good defensively. Like, at all. You show me bad defense, and I'll show you 'bad' goaltending. Because a bad defense will give up better chances, putting more pressure on the goalie.
Koskinen hasn't been good. But neither has the team (defensively). Pretending that he is their only problem is all kinds of naive.
