[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Ashasx]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358459379834568705

[Toonage]

Can't recall where I read Dermott/Kerfoot for Bennett. Maybe here? Not sure this adds a lot of smoke or necessarily points to a fire but its not the first time I've seen this suggestion.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358459379834568705

I don't understand why the Flames would ever move Bennett for another left-shooting defenseman. This is the last thing they need.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Can't recall where I read Dermott/Kerfoot for Bennett. Maybe here? Not sure this adds a lot of smoke or necessarily points to a fire but its not the first time I've seen this suggestion.

THe Flames should never trade with Toronto for players - only draft picks. The Leaves’ players are always over-rated and the Flames brass seem to buy into the hype and lose - cases in point: the Gilmour/Macoun trade for a bag of pucks and the Phaneuf trade (I liked Stajan, but...).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358459379834568705

This to me is just Toronto media types that are looking at what their disposable assets are and throw that into a trade. Does Dermott even play in the Flames top 6?

I saw a Dermott+Kerfoot for Bennett+Kylington deal posted on Twitter. Still don’t like that considering the cap hit that Kerfoot brings.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Steve Bozek

THe Flames should never trade with Toronto for players - only draft picks. The Leaves’ players are always over-rated and the Flames brass seem to buy into the hype and lose - cases in point: the Gilmour/Macoun trade for a bag of pucks and the Phaneuf trade (I liked Stajan, but...).

Yep, never seems to end well does it. Fans might look back at the Phaneuf trade fondly as Stajan was beloved in the end but at the time it wasn't a great deal and could have been so much more had the rest of the league been engaged in trade talks.

[Kovaz]

Pretty sure Dermott is Toronto's "Halak, Ryder, and a 2nd"

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I wouldn't mind taking Kerfoot+ for Bennett.

[Wastedyouth]

Engvall would be my target.

Dermott just hurt his knee a game or two ago.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

Bennett is no Gary Roberts!!! like not even close! I don’t ever recall a game where I didn’t notice Roberts having an impact. Bennett!? Well he’s gone weeks without me noticing him in a game. Did Roberts take some bad penalties early in in his career? Sure but Roberts never took a shift off regular or post season. He also had way more offensive hockey IQ then Bennett has ever shown. Anyways I’m hoping Tre can pull off some more wizardry on this trade. Go Flames Go!

To be fair, the comparison that was made was more about the two players’ development time than skills, or impact. Roberts spent a lot of time in the bottom 6, before breaking out into a scorer.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by Sandman

To be fair, the comparison that was made was more about the two players’ development time than skills, or impact. Roberts spent a lot of time in the bottom 6, before breaking out into a scorer.

Thanks. I just saw some initial similarities to Roberts' play in his first couple of seasons and was just hoping he would develop the way Roberts did. In his first full season Roberts didn't score much and was second to Tim Hunter in penalty minutes. But he showed progressive development into a dominant player, while that's not been the case for Sam.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

Bennett is no Gary Roberts!!! like not even close! I don’t ever recall a game where I didn’t notice Roberts having an impact. Bennett!? Well he’s gone weeks without me noticing him in a game. Did Roberts take some bad penalties early in in his career? Sure but Roberts never took a shift off regular or post season. He also had way more offensive hockey IQ then Bennett has ever shown. Anyways I’m hoping Tre can pull off some more wizardry on this trade. Go Flames Go!

I can remember wondering what the hell Roberts was ever going to turn into during his first couple seasons. Bad penalties, suspect hockey IQ, thought he would be a bubble player at that time. He kind of drove me nuts but I didn't have a comment board to go to to complain lol.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

I can remember wondering what the hell Roberts was ever going to turn into during his first couple seasons. Bad penalties, suspect hockey IQ, thought he would be a bubble player at that time. He kind of drove me nuts but I didn't have a comment board to go to to complain lol.

Gary Roberts who played with Nieuwendyk and Loob? He was 21 when that line first tasted success, then was only 22 when they won the cup and where he was a key player on the team. The next year he would score 39 goals, then two years later break the 50 goal barrier at age 25. When was he a bubble player?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358459379834568705

Gio and Bennett for Dermott and Nylander....

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by New Era

Gary Roberts who played with Nieuwendyk and Loob? He was 21 when that line first tasted success, then was only 22 when they won the cup and where he was a key player on the team. The next year he would score 39 goals, then two years later break the 50 goal barrier at age 25. When was he a bubble player?

I never said he WAS a bubble player. I said he drove me a little bit nuts so I wondered if he would be more than that. I was quite clearly, happily and obviously wrong.

He was playing with pretty good players and 22 goals in that era isn't the same as now. He obviously played on an awesome team but he took a lot of dumb penalties and kind of drove ME nuts. In the end I was wrong and he became a favorite,

It is almost like I had an unhealthy obsession with criticizing his every play and it affected how I looked at him as a player.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Engvall would be my target.

Dermott just hurt his knee a game or two ago.

In the games against the Leafs, I've been impressed with Mikheyev more. Plus he's a RW but he's also UFA after next season.

Honestly, other than Sandin or Robertson, there's nothing of interest from the Leafs.

[Flamenspiel]

Yea, there is nothing there from the Leafs, again his value is maximum at the trade deadline. At that point the Flames may end up going for picks in return. It would be no worse then what the Oilers gave up for Antonescu.

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

I never said he WAS a bubble player. I said he drove me a little bit nuts so I wondered if he would be more than that. I was quite clearly, happily and obviously wrong.

He was playing with pretty good players and 22 goals in that era isn't the same as now. He obviously played on an awesome team but he took a lot of dumb penalties and kind of drove ME nuts. In the end I was wrong and he became a favorite,

It is almost like I had an unhealthy obsession with criticizing his every play and it affected how I looked at him as a player.

Wow I remember Roberts completely different, I LOVED HIM! As a young player and even more as he developed, but to each their own. Go Flames!!!!!

Anyways I don’t want this to turn into a Bennett/Roberts thread, back to trading Sam. The Toronto Dermott for Bennett rumours had better be untrue, that is not the trade the Flames need right now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Yea, there is nothing there from the Leafs, again his value is maximum at the trade deadline. At that point the Flames may end up going for picks in return. It would be no worse then what the Oilers gave up for Antonescu.

Yep, Flames could get a rental better than Sam and trade Sam for more picks than the rental cost

Bennett being an RFA and all

[mile]

Originally Posted by enoch root

ward has a chance to make things better here - and as the coach, that is part of his job. He should tell bennett "you've got 10 games on the top line, so just relax and play. Keep it simple, stay out of the box, and just play. And then we'll see where we are at."

that would diffuse things and give bennett something to build on.

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