[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Loyal and True]

I agree. Bennett (Darren Ferris) created drama letting this out to reporters without talking to the team. That too is total bush league and everything I read on Ferris suggests that is how he operates. Is it a coincidence that Victor Mete is in a similar (public) situation?

I am a biased fan, but does anyone really see Bennett as someone looking for this attention? He has always been low profile.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

I agree. Bennett (Darren Ferris) created drama letting this out to reporters without talking to the team. That too is total bush league and everything I read on Ferris suggests that is how he operates. Is it a coincidence that Victor Mete is in a similar (public) situation?

No, it is not a coincidence that during/(or before) a game between the Canadiens and the Flames, Elliott Friedman (in his own words) reached out to Darren Ferris and asked about the satisfaction level of players who would be playing (or sitting in the press box) during that game, who he represents, who both obviously need a change of scenery.

The agent didn't reach out to Friedman nor did he go on a twitter diatribe.

So much context keeps getting omitted.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

I agree with Bingo there is way too much drama in this story, but my point is that Ward is creating it or at least escalating it and that is bush league.

The full 8 min pre game interview (Feb 1) is on the Flames website. First 3 mins are other topics.

Then the Bennett question from Wes Gilbertson was "did/will you discuss with Sam that the situation won't be a distraction". The first half of his answer was a perfect and professional response. Then he goes a different direction all on his own.

There was nothing asked about playing Sam at centre/wing or anything like that. Ward put that out there to ward off any criticism of his deployment of Bennett.

Seems defensive and insecure from the Head Coach. If nothing else this feeds a media story and thus increases the noise surrounding the team.

Then the healthy scratch and separation from the regular group sending s the media in a complete tailspin and creates all kinds of drama.

I honestly think the drama is just on here

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

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The agent didn't reach out to Friedman nor did he go on a twitter diatribe.

So much context keeps getting omitted.

Maybe let's not omit the fact that Ferris knew damn well he hadn't contacted Treliving about the issue and that he's creating a s--- storm by giving Friedman the juicy goods before management.

Unless you think management is lying and thus creating more controversy?

Either way it is a complete gongshow

[868904]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

No, it is not a coincidence that during/(or before) a game between the Canadiens and the Flames, Elliott Friedman (in his own words) reached out to Darren Ferris and asked about the satisfaction level of players who would be playing (or sitting in the press box) during that game, who he represents, who both obviously need a change of scenery.

The agent didn't reach out to Friedman nor did he go on a twitter diatribe.

So much context keeps getting omitted.

The agent could say nothing.

When you say your player needs a change, you’ve disadvantaged the team.

Now opposing GMs know the player wants out.

I don’t like that Bennett was scratched and that his value is deteriorating but the agent got this ball rolling.

He has no obligation to comment just because the media asks. In fact, his first obligation is to not comment until he clears it with his client; that’s suppose to be how these relationships work. So did he clear it first, then approach Friedman to induce a question so he can make a comment?

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I honestly think the drama is just on here

No, it's all over the nhl news cycle in other Canadian markets. It's almost embarrassing.

I don't have high expectations of player agents, but I expect the organization to handle it better.

To me it's another example of how Ward makes very odd choices in high pressure situations.

[dammage79]

Ye old Eklund has the Flames and Leafs in "2nd phase" talks over Sam Bennett.

If I'm the Flames I'm chasing Yegor Korshkov, Liljigren, Der-Argunsitev. With some salary coming back.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

No, it's all over the nhl news cycle in other Canadian markets. It's almost embarrassing.

No it’s not. There’s more drama here than anywhere. I don’t think anyone in Carolina or Florida cares about this story at all.

[AC]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

No it’s not. There’s more drama here than anywhere. I don’t think anyone in Carolina or Florida cares about this story at all.

Well to be fair to his point, Carolina and Florida are not Canadian markets.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by AC

Well to be fair to his point, Carolina and Florida are not Canadian markets.

Ooops, I apologize, I read that wrong. Either way, this story is not embarrassing.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

No it’s not. There’s more drama here than anywhere. I don’t think anyone in Carolina or Florida cares about this story at all.

Sorry if this sounds disrespectful, but how is your reply even an argument?

Of course there is more drama here than anywhere. It's a Flames Message Board and the thread is clearly about the Sam Bennett and the repercussions coming out of the Healthy Scratch.

Carolina and Florida don't care? Give me a break with that argument.

I can't speak for other posters, but I am not littering other threads with this topic.

It's gonna take a few days for this topic to run its course, but people who want to drive by and insult people that are discussing it just make the thread worse intentionally.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Ooops, I apologize, I read that wrong. Either way, this story is not embarrassing.

Sorry I didn't read your apology until after I replied. I take it back

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

Sorry if this sounds disrespectful, but how is your reply even an argument?

Of course there is more drama here than anywhere. It's a Flames Message Board and the thread is clearly about the Sam Bennett and the repercussions coming out of the Healthy Scratch.

Carolina and Florida don't care? Give me a break with that argument.

I can't speak for other posters, but I am not littering other threads with this topic.

It's gonna take a few days for this topic to run its course, but people who want to drive by and insult people that are discussing it just make the thread worse intentionally.

All 7 of their total fans lol

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by keenan87

All 7 of their total fans lol

Maybe FLA has 7 fans but Carolinas got a rock solid fan base right now.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

Maybe let's not omit the fact that Ferris knew damn well he hadn't contacted Treliving about the issue and that he's creating a s--- storm by giving Friedman the juicy goods before management.

Unless you think management is lying and thus creating more controversy?

Either way it is a complete gongshow

This has happened more than once so I am sure management is annoyed. This isn't the first time Sam asked for more ice time and his agent spoke up. This is likely why we are seeing some push back.

If Sam is not happy with his ice time he has to either express it in a big way to the coach, or show some strong healthy disappointment and step up on the ice. Everyone was very happy with Sam Bennett's playoff performance so where is that effort now?? If h wants ice-time he has to get mad take the reins and show some leadership. It is all there he has to take unintuitive.

Not a big fan of Wards handling of the situation. He gave Sam options but those were limited options, when Sam probably thought he would be rewarded more ice time after his playoff performance.

[Remember1989]

On the bright side - expansion draft concerns have been muted for the time being.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Maybe FLA has 7 fans but Carolinas got a rock solid fan base right now.

Most successful NHL team campaign I can remember. Bunch of Jerks!!

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

No it’s not. There’s more drama here than anywhere. I don’t think anyone in Carolina or Florida cares about this story at all.

They don’t even care about hockey.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

It's gonna take a few days for this topic to run its course, but people who want to drive by and insult people that are discussing it just make the thread worse intentionally.

I haven’t insulted anybody. I’m just saying this story isn’t embarrassing. Stuff like this happens quite often in hockey. Of course it will hit closer to home for us Flames fans but I doubt anyone outside of Calgary or this site is really dissecting it or thinking about it too much.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Ooops, I apologize, I read that wrong. Either way, this story is not embarrassing.

I'll bet Bennett is a bit embarrassed about how this has played out.

In my opinion agents like Ferris *should* be embarrassed if they use the media instead of meeting management straight up behind closed doors.

In my opinion, Ward's odd decisions adding fuel to the story show a lack of understanding and poor judgement, which makes Treliving look bad too. (I haven't heard from Tre on any of this)

Obviously it would be far-fetched to say the organization has it's tail between its legs because Ryan is injured and Sam is gonna play two days after the Flames made him stand in the corner.