02-19-2007, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
Come on. Hardaway is talking about grown men sharing locker rooms with other grown men. Not with little boys.
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WHL players are hardly little boys.
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The Graham James analogy is completely irrelevant and is a clear attempt to link pedophilia and homosexuality.
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You have a gay man who in all likelihood tried something with the guys in the locker room. But clearly that fact doesn't fit your agenda so you try to dismiss it.
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Unfortunately (for you), you have only clearly proven the link between homophobia and stupidity.
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The link is that stupid people will throw around the word homophobia when they don't like what they hear.
You want another example of a gay man trying something in the locker room? Try Terry Garvin.
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02-22-2007, 10:18 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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He said what 99% of current professional athletes in NA would say if they were guarateed not to have it affect their earnings potential.
When someone on this forum goes to work and have a gay coworker, that is for 40 hours a week. You dont have to share a room wth them at night, you dont go out for dinner, you dont change in the same room as they do, you dont have to answeres questions about your coworkers to the media so for anyone on this board (apart from maybe Toker) to compare their working situation to that of a pro athletes holds no water.
If you are gay, fine, go along and be gay and keep it to your damn self. I dont go around telling people I am hetrosexual. Get over your selves and live your own damn life and leave me out of it. I dont need to know you are gay.
Thanks Tim for at least telling your perspective of the truth (even though it should have been worded more carefully in this BS PC world we live in).
MYK
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02-22-2007, 10:50 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
He said what 99% of current professional athletes in NA would say if they were guarateed not to have it affect their earnings potential.
When someone on this forum goes to work and have a gay coworker, that is for 40 hours a week. You dont have to share a room wth them at night, you dont go out for dinner, you dont change in the same room as they do, you dont have to answeres questions about your coworkers to the media so for anyone on this board (apart from maybe Toker) to compare their working situation to that of a pro athletes holds no water.
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50 - 60 years ago, the same was probably said about black athletes.
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02-22-2007, 10:57 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
If you are gay, fine, go along and be gay and keep it to your damn self. I dont go around telling people I am hetrosexual. Get over your selves and live your own damn life and leave me out of it. I dont need to know you are gay.
MYK
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Do you talk about your wife/girlfriend, even in passing?
Then you are doing the same thing.
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02-22-2007, 11:24 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
He said what 99% of current professional athletes in NA would say if they were guarateed not to have it affect their earnings potential.
When someone on this forum goes to work and have a gay coworker, that is for 40 hours a week. You dont have to share a room wth them at night, you dont go out for dinner, you dont change in the same room as they do, you dont have to answeres questions about your coworkers to the media so for anyone on this board (apart from maybe Toker) to compare their working situation to that of a pro athletes holds no water.
If you are gay, fine, go along and be gay and keep it to your damn self. I dont go around telling people I am hetrosexual. Get over your selves and live your own damn life and leave me out of it. I dont need to know you are gay.
Thanks Tim for at least telling your perspective of the truth (even though it should have been worded more carefully in this BS PC world we live in).
MYK
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The truth? What do you mean the truth? Homosexuality shouldn't be "in the world or in the United States". ?
I wonder if maybe you could word that specific "truth" so it sounds acceptable in this BS PC world we live in.
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02-22-2007, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn
50 - 60 years ago, the same was probably said about black athletes.
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Very good point.
Just to play a little devil's advocate though, homosexual concerns and racial concerns are two different things. One is ridiculous, superficial, and based on a class system that thankfully no longer exists... the other deals with sexuality, which is a serious issue, even to the "BS PC" crowd. Straight men have every right to be apprehensive about gay men in the locker room, just like straight women have every right to be apprehensive about straight men in the locker room. Like I mentioned before, put me in the ladies locker room, I won't be attracted to every woman I see for sure, but I'd definitely find a few I wouldn't mind showering beside, and therein lies the problem. Everyone has self-control, but there is also basic instinct. That's why we have separate change rooms, and that whole scenario has to be addressed by society.
With that, its a little beyond concerning when apprehension goes that extra step into hatred.
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02-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Gay actor George Takai(from original Star Trek) gives his rebuttal. Damn funny: http://www.influks.com/post897.html
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02-22-2007, 04:17 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Originally Posted by Thunderball
Very good point.
Just to play a little devil's advocate though, homosexual concerns and racial concerns are two different things. One is ridiculous, superficial, and based on a class system that thankfully no longer exists... the other deals with sexuality, which is a serious issue, even to the "BS PC" crowd. Straight men have every right to be apprehensive about gay men in the locker room, just like straight women have every right to be apprehensive about straight men in the locker room. Like I mentioned before, put me in the ladies locker room, I won't be attracted to every woman I see for sure, but I'd definitely find a few I wouldn't mind showering beside, and therein lies the problem. Everyone has self-control, but there is also basic instinct. That's why we have separate change rooms, and that whole scenario has to be addressed by society.
With that, its a little beyond concerning when apprehension goes that extra step into hatred.
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Yeah there are differances. But if you change at the gym, or at a public swimming pool. There could be gay men there as well. In fact there could be openly gay men there.
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02-22-2007, 04:21 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
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OMG! LOL FUNNY!
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02-22-2007, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
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That was great! What a perfect response.
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"Man, so long as he remains free, has no more constant and agonizing anxiety than to find, as quickly as possible, someone to worship."
Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
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02-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by itcrossedtheline
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I've seen it now and he still comes across as a moron.
But Tim, you've been in Miami for years now and there is a strong and public gay community there. How have you still held on to that same mentality while living in Miami all of these years?
I just get away from it. I just walk away. I see it, I just go the other way, cross the street.
Q: I've had people roll up on me and say that something must have happened to you in your life to make you feel the way that you do about gays.
"Now did something happen to me? No. But I did have a friend that something happened to him in a Catholic school, but that is another can of worms that it's not my place to open because it's not my life. But to answer your question, "No." Nothing happened to me."
Nice work. "I don't hate gay people, but I won't go near them". That's good Timmy. He's a real misunderstood humanitarian obviously.
It is impressive how connects pedophile priests and homosexuality so seamlessly. I'm sure if some greasy priest did his thing to a little girl he knew then he would be suspicious of heterosexuals as well, and he would have brought it up in this context.
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