[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Weitz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1357387036420833286

If Francis is saying No Trade that clearly means a trade is imminent

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Wut? Petulant?

Ward doesn't need to defend anything, other than to do what he thinks is best for the team.

4 wins (one of them a shootout)
5 losses

nordstrom has played in seven games

"best for the team"

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

If that's the case, I can't wait until Sam is gone. He should be worrying about his own lacklustre performance, not trying to outcoach the coach.

That being said, that's a preposterous guess.

Not a guess

I've got sources who work at Orange Julius

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I'll call it whatever I want. That's the point of a message board. Opinions. And yes there is a myth of Sam Bennett for a few posters. Why does that get under your skin that we are discussing it?

Well clearly some people care, some people don't. How could you possibly know who cares and how much? Not sure why you care so much that people like discussing hockey. What you call psychoanalyzing, the rest of us call hockey talk.

Maybe stop taking it so personally and it won't bother you as much. Speaking of psychoanalyzing, you appear to need to psychoanalyze why people hold their opinions and can't just discuss the player.

Do you, baby. I'm just expressing my opinion as someone who likes discussing hockey

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yes, because Bennett has been such a wrecking ball out there so far this season. What are we going to do without the guy with the 94th most hits per 60 minutes played, or more importantly, two hits per game?

I'd say 57th ...

That's 385 forwards (12.5 / team).

Bennett is the second most physical player on the average NHL team, which is in fact a physical player.

He's fourth in Calgary though which is interesting.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

4 wins (one of them a shootout)
5 losses

nordstrom has played in seven games

"best for the team"

And you don't think Ward is ultimately responsible for the record and coaching decisions? Good idea to spite Bennett at the cost of the team? Ridiculous.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I'm guessing Bennett was baffled by Leivo getting PP time (as literally any person with two eyes should be) and said so to Ward and now got benched.

You think this happened over a whopping +0:42 difference of powerplay time? Yeah, I'm taking that bet.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Why should Bennett continuously get a free pass to play every night when he isn't getting the job done? The Flames are going nowhere if they don't get contributions from their bottom 6 beyond Backlund.

Guys like Bennett, Lucic, Ryan need to step up and start chipping in. What have they given the Flames aside from being completely overmatched whenever on the ice this year? 5 points combined while counting for roughly $9 million against the cap?

That kind of dough comes with expectations that you should be at least chipping in every few games with something more than not taking penalties or winning a few draws.

Then why isn't Backlund a healthy scratch by your reasoning? He costs more than Bennett and has played worse.

[genetic_phreek]

In the last few years this team has been the most talented group we've had in a long time. Especially this year, a legitimate goalie, great balance on D, forward group seems it should be deeper than years past. Yet I can't help but feel there seems to be a dark cloud over this team.

Possibly the Sam Bennett effect. Should be good, shows signs of being good. But isn't very good.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by fighting banana slug

and you don't think ward is ultimately responsible for the record and coaching decisions? Good idea to spite bennett at the cost of the team? Ridiculous.

he asked for a trade

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I would love to know what Eric Francis thinks is fascinating. Guys get scratched all the time. Why is he so amazed by this move?

does anyone remember when Roger used to end every tweet with 'hmmmmmmmmmmmm'?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

And you don't think Ward is ultimately responsible for the record and coaching decisions? Good idea to spite Bennett at the cost of the team? Ridiculous.

same coach who trots Lucic out there every night in key situations and then does a surprised pikachu face when lucic coughs up a pizza that ends up in the back of the net

he's not an objective "anything to win" coach or Nordstrom would not be in the lineup before Bennett

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by dino7c

he asked for a trade

Which would be one reason to sit him. I personally don't agree with it, but that would be up to Ward

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If Bennett hadn't formally requested a trade, I imagine this "Coach decision" will certainly bring that formal request out.

Last game I think it was when one of the analysts/broadcasters ran a replay of Tkachuk mucking it up and then they commented on how the team backed him up. You know who "backed him up" in the scrum? It was Benny.Benny was also out there laying hits last game, unlike everyone else.

This team seems to want to play emotionless, slow, soft, boring hockey by design. I don't believe in this approach.

Simply false.

Hits last game:

Nordstrom 3
Backlund 2
Monahan 2
Lindholm 2

Gaudreau, Lucic, Tkachuk, Bennett 1

I guess he outhit Ryan, Leivo, Dube and Mangiapaine who had zero. I'm assuming that's who you meant? They are everyone else?

This is the problem with the Bennett apologists, exaggerating everything he does.

[FlamesAddiction]

It's been mentioned that Bennett doesn't want to play on the wing, but he isn't one of the top 4 centers on the team. As a winger, he is an OK 3rd or 4th liner. As a center, he is going to eat popcorn on occasion. I think that is the takeaway here.

[Igottago]

So much energy/attention wasted on a pretty useless player. Tre needs to just move the guy already. Get a body back, the team won't skip a beat.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Too many fans are convinced Bennett is far better than he is. He is a replacement level player or worse. Watching him closely last game with some of the skilled players was telling. It's high time he sits, especially given the fact he wants out. Nothing wrong with a little medicine from the coach if it inspires him to start playing with more emotion....which is the only thing that elevates his play in the playoffs.

He's a guy who handles the puck like a hand grenade and cannot even make a simple pass to his linemates. Heck he can't even muster a shot that can challenge an NHL goalie. There's no need to fear for who is replacing a guy like this when he's not using his best asset - physical, intense play.

This just isn't true. Not sure why some of you have to create this narrative.

He's been disappointing, he's not a core piece, he certainly hasn't lived up to his draft billing ... but he produced like a 8-9 forward on an average NHL team. That's not replacement.

This year ... he's entering that replacement player realm with his start, but 9 games as a sample size doesn't amount to much for a label.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by New Era

NSFW!

I thought he was invisible last game.

If that's a limbo setup you made the opposite point!

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

same coach who trots Lucic out there every night in key situations and then does a surprised pikachu face when lucic coughs up a pizza that ends up in the back of the net

he's not an objective "anything to win" coach or Nordstrom would not be in the lineup before Bennett

But you showed 4 wins/5 loses and Nordstrom played in 7 games. How is that different if I showed 4 wins/5 loses and Bennett played 9 games?

I would bench Nordstrom before Bennett, but the difference between Nordstrom and Bennett is sadly not that great.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So much energy/attention wasted on a pretty useless player. Tre needs to just move the guy already. Get a body back, the team won't skip a beat.

I'm wasting energy on this but I don't feel like the Flames themselves are too concerned.