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Old 02-01-2021, 05:55 PM   #781
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And the top line performed well with Simon on it, by coincidence or not.
Wasn't Simon scratched in the last game?
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Old 02-01-2021, 05:56 PM   #782
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Bennett is the franchise's active playoff leader in:

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ESP

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/team...nhl-stats.html

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Old 02-01-2021, 05:56 PM   #783
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It's weird how much hostility Bennett gets.

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I don't think he is a top 6 forward unfortunately, but I completely get why he would want a better opportunity given his contract status.

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Pro-Bennett camp vehemently calls to put Bennet in top 6 while others say he is what he is, just show us the money and earn your spot. Mangiappane earned his spot in the top 6. So did Dube. Why is Bennett so special - just because he's the highest drafted Flames ever?
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Old 02-01-2021, 05:56 PM   #784
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Wasn't Simon scratched in the last game?
Because Dube is better.

ETA, but Monahan and Gaudreau skated well with Simon, whether because of him or in spite of him. Better than with leivo.
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Old 02-01-2021, 05:56 PM   #785
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If Sam Bennett really is a 24 year old 'power forward' with skill that just hasn't had a chance to show it consistently in a top 6 role he should fetch a pretty sweet return the Flames. Hopefully BT can get a top 6 player back in return.
There's the rub: teams *may* view some untapped potential, but unlikely to pay fair market value for it. It's an almost lose-lose situation for the Flames.

Which is why people are so mad about it. All in all, things just couldn't have turned out worse for the Flames and SB.
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Old 02-01-2021, 06:08 PM   #786
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Bennett is the franchise's active leader in:

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ESP

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/team...nhl-stats.html

* Also played last playoffs with a torn tricep

(And I had a chuckle reading some poster who tried to say he was getting buried at face offs because he was mediocre at them. He has been solidly and decently above 50% three years running)
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We will never know, but it could just be business. Bennett is a good playoff player so he would be able to cash in more if he got more exposure. A long playoff run made a lost if dollars for otherwise marginal players. But with the Flames one round and out trend he has less opportunity.
Can't really blame him either.
I like Sam, he seems like a great guy and is always a pro. But he is not going to be missed on the ice.

This is a good well thought out rational post, unlike some who tend to over exaggerate to make a point.
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Old 02-01-2021, 06:16 PM   #788
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It's weird how much hostility Bennett gets.

He's clearly been disappointing, but people are acting like he went all Tony DeAngelo and fought a teammate.

He wants a bigger opportunity, especially given that it's a contract year and he had yet another strong playoffs. He even subbed in for Tkachuk and put up some goals on the 1st PP unit in his spot. He was then put back on the 4th line to start the year, largely because he wanted to play C and Lindholm was also moved to C pushing Bennett down further.

I don't think he is a top 6 forward unfortunately, but I completely get why he would want a better opportunity given his contract status.

I just don't get the outright vehemence some clearly have for him.
Bennett hasnt scored a PP goal in 2 seasons i believe.
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Old 02-01-2021, 06:20 PM   #789
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Bennett is the franchise's active leader in:

Goals
ESG
ESP

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/team...nhl-stats.html
What's interesting is that 4 of those 7 ESG's and 4 of those 11 ESP points were scored on Jan 13, 2016!!!

https://www.hockey-reference.com/box...601130CGY.html

Could've traded him for Crosby, Malkin, and McJesus after that game! But held on too long!

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It's weird how much hostility Bennett gets.

He's clearly been disappointing, but people are acting like he went all Tony DeAngelo and fought a teammate.

He wants a bigger opportunity, especially given that it's a contract year and he had yet another strong playoffs. He even subbed in for Tkachuk and put up some goals on the 1st PP unit in his spot. He was then put back on the 4th line to start the year, largely because he wanted to play C and Lindholm was also moved to C pushing Bennett down further.

I don't think he is a top 6 forward unfortunately, but I completely get why he would want a better opportunity given his contract status.

I just don't get the outright vehemence some clearly have for him.
I don’t think Bennett gets hardly any hostility. He gets less than Will Nault, that’s for sure.

Lots of opposing viewpoints but almost nothing I’d describe as hostility.
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Bennett hasnt scored a PP goal in 2 seasons i believe.
In the playoffs, after Tkachuk was injured. He had 2 PPGs and 2 PPAs.
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It's weird how much hostility Bennett gets.

He's clearly been disappointing, but people are acting like he went all Tony DeAngelo and fought a teammate.

He wants a bigger opportunity, especially given that it's a contract year and he had yet another strong playoffs. He even subbed in for Tkachuk and put up some goals on the 1st PP unit in his spot. He was then put back on the 4th line to start the year, largely because he wanted to play C and Lindholm was also moved to C pushing Bennett down further.

I don't think he is a top 6 forward unfortunately, but I completely get why he would want a better opportunity given his contract status.

I just don't get the outright vehemence some clearly have for him.
maybe i missed the hate posts...

mainly what I see are posters taking umbrage at other poster's assessment of Bennett and then trying to change each others minds time and time again with little success...

After 5 years in a Flames uniform, people have each come to their own conclusion of what Bennett is or what he isn't... Fairly or unfairly, I don't think there's ever going to be a consensus, unless he flips the switch on a consistent basis, here or somewhere else.
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Old 02-01-2021, 07:14 PM   #793
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What's interesting is that 4 of those 7 ESG's and 4 of those 11 ESP points were scored on Jan 13, 2016!!!

https://www.hockey-reference.com/box...601130CGY.html

Could've traded him for Crosby, Malkin, and McJesus after that game! But held on too long!
He was talking about playoffs. You're talking about one regular season game. They don't add together for this example.
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Old 02-01-2021, 08:01 PM   #794
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I don’t think Bennett gets hardly any hostility. He gets less than Will Nault, that’s for sure.

Lots of opposing viewpoints but almost nothing I’d describe as hostility.
That is untrue. There is one thread where a few people rip on Nault. Bennett is featured in literally every thread.

Bennett at least has some professional strong points... Nault just sucks at his job.
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Old 02-01-2021, 08:17 PM   #795
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Bennett made his intentions known when he said he picked his jersey number because of Doug Gilmour, and went with 93 instead of 39
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Bennett made his intentions known when he said he picked his jersey number because of Doug Gilmour, and went with 93 instead of 39
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Old 02-01-2021, 09:49 PM   #797
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Bennett made his intentions known when he said he picked his jersey number because of Doug Gilmour, and went with 93 instead of 39

You know he grew up in Ontario, right?

Gilmour is known there as having worn 93, which he wore in Chicago and still identifies as his number (DG93)

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You know he grew up in Ontario, right?

Gilmour is known there as having worn 93, which he wore in Chicago and still identifies as his number (DG93)

Woosh.

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Oh, I see

Didn’t read it closely enough

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Bennett was better this game, still no results

play like that every game
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