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[Red]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

People were preaching Flames depth, they lose a few in a row and suddenly Dillon Dube is the difference.

Agree, I was excited for the new depth too, but so far I feel cheated.

Good depth is when guys like Dube and Mangipane are in the bottom 6. Then they could be the difference makers vs lesser opposition.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

People were preaching Flames depth, they lose a few in a row and suddenly Dillon Dube is the difference.

It was only a few weeks ago some were saying how guys like Mangiapane and Dube were untouchables when it came to acquiring a guy like PLD.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1355036315608203264

I said it after the Sunday game — the Lindholm line hasn’t been very dangerous with Dube out. Got a few chances yesterday but couldn’t convert. I just don’t think Mangiapane is a great fit on that line, and is a better compliment for Backlund (who is struggling without him).

Not sure who else you could elevate — Bennett? Ryan? — but it’s a hole that hasn’t been filled.

[JohnnyBeGood]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I think I pencilled Mackey in ahead of Stone, but the actual brass probably do exactly what you said.





Pretty easy to clog up the middle when you’re up 3-0. I wouldn’t say Julien did anything better tonight than any other coach with a 3-0 lead.

Aug 20 Flames were up 3-0 over the Stars, Game 6. Clogging up the middle would have been nice!

[Macman]

The Flames started okay but than things kind of fell apart. I thought those first 2 penalty calls against Valimaki and Lindholm were marginal weak calls. Later on when the game was already over, Mangiapane with a clearly blatant high stick didn't get called.

I also didn't like the line combos with bottom 6 players up on the first 2 lines. When the game was 3-0 halfway through, they should have just gone with 3 lines, play your best players!

The only forward over 20 minutes ice time was Lindholm. Monahan, Gaudreau and Tkachuck can easily play more, yeah I get special teams and everything but still.

I would also break up Nesterov and Valamaki, or at least try it.

Habs are a good team though so hopefully the Flames will have a bounce back game.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I actually think that the lineup (at least based on the games so far this season) should be:


Gaudreau - Monahan - Simon - this line is clicking, and I do think that Simon adds to this line. His forechecking/back-pressure/ability to play along the boards has been strong, and that's what this line really needs. It is why I wanted to see Bennett or Jankowski on this top line. As it stands, this line is experiencing success, so don't touch it.


Tkachuk - Lindholm - Bennett - I am a 'pro Bennett' guy, but no, he is not here because he deserves it or it is the right thing to do for Bennett. The other winger on this line has been mostly irrelevant IMO, and often invisible. Bennett will just make this line a bit tougher to play against, and can help to insulate Tkachuk a bit. He isn't scared to muck it up, and I think that will benefit Tkachuk a bit.

Mangiapane - Backlund - Dube - Backlund hasn't been great. Dube and Mangiapane have been (to varying degrees) rather irrelevant as the top 6 wingers. Put them with Backlund and let's see if they can gel together. Everyone is at least decent defensively, so you shouldn't be too worried about match-ups anyway.


As for the 4th line.. if Ryan continues to struggle, I am all for just continuously mixing it up. Heck, give me a line of Lucic - Ritchie - Rinaldo/Robinson. Play them 5 minutes a night to wake this damn team up. Flames have possibly been the easiest team to play against in the division. Just keep rotating guys in and out. Leivo has been completely invisible most nights. Alternatively, you can go with a Gawdin - Ryan - Leivo lineup and see if they can generate something, and play this line 12-14 minutes a game. The 4th line has been mostly bad... sometimes absolutely putrid. You should never lose because of your 4th line - and IMO, they haven't lost any games on their own. However, they haven't been a positive on this team. Just rotate everyone through the Taxi Squad until something clicks.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I actually think that the lineup (at least based on the games so far this season) should be:


Gaudreau - Monahan - Simon - this line is clicking, and I do think that Simon adds to this line. His forechecking/back-pressure/ability to play along the boards has been strong, and that's what this line really needs. It is why I wanted to see Bennett or Jankowski on this top line. As it stands, this line is experiencing success, so don't touch it.


Tkachuk - Lindholm - Bennett - I am a 'pro Bennett' guy, but no, he is not here because he deserves it or it is the right thing to do for Bennett. The other winger on this line has been mostly irrelevant IMO, and often invisible. Bennett will just make this line a bit tougher to play against, and can help to insulate Tkachuk a bit. He isn't scared to muck it up, and I think that will benefit Tkachuk a bit.

Mangiapane - Backlund - Dube - Backlund hasn't been great. Dube and Mangiapane have been (to varying degrees) rather irrelevant as the top 6 wingers. Put them with Backlund and let's see if they can gel together. Everyone is at least decent defensively, so you shouldn't be too worried about match-ups anyway.


As for the 4th line.. if Ryan continues to struggle, I am all for just continuously mixing it up. Heck, give me a line of Lucic - Ritchie - Rinaldo/Robinson. Play them 5 minutes a night to wake this damn team up. Flames have possibly been the easiest team to play against in the division. Just keep rotating guys in and out. Leivo has been completely invisible most nights. Alternatively, you can go with a Gawdin - Ryan - Leivo lineup and see if they can generate something, and play this line 12-14 minutes a game. The 4th line has been mostly bad... sometimes absolutely putrid. You should never lose because of your 4th line - and IMO, they haven't lost any games on their own. However, they haven't been a positive on this team. Just rotate everyone through the Taxi Squad until something clicks.

I am down with stapling Bennett to Lindy-Tkachuk. It might be his last chance to show any sort of usefulness iMO.

I strongly disagree with your comment about Simon though. He's a pylon that Johnny and Monahan are making due with. There was a particular play last night that really killed me inside- Johnny and Monahan and just taken a big shift in the ozone, both back checked hard to play D, then the dman recovered and moved the puck up the ice to Simon. Johnny and Mony went to head off on a change. Simon had been seemingly near centre ice this entire shift- he wasn't in deep on the offensive rush, he was mid circle, and his back check was super weak, hence him taking that breakout pass from the d man around centre.
Instead of moving it up ice or even doing the least and dumping it, he skated the puck from the wall across center towards the benches, diagonally towards the opposing blue line. It was bizarre, because he skated right into the oncoming changed Habs players, who immediately stripped him of the puck. It was weak, it almost looked like he gave it to them. Just one example but it seems to happen consistently.

[Jeff Lebowski]

nm

[KootenayFlamesFan]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1355241655457120257

[Jiri Hrdina]

Boy he's really matured. Awesome.

[ComixZone]

That’s awesome to get an actual answer rather than boiler plate bull#%*^ we get from other veterans in the “leadership” group who have said the same crap for years and do nothing to address it.

Good on Andy. Real hockey talk.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1355241655457120257

Slap an A on Rasmus.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Slap an A on Rasmus.

Take the C from Gio and give it to Andy.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Take the C from Gio and give it to Andy.

Or that!

[Harry Lime]

I had to go back and read the whole last page to figure out who the hell Andy was.

[calumniate]

Agreed with Rasmus there - Jusso has had some pretty bad bounces and you can tell he feels terrible about it. Just get out there and play

[Mass_nerder]

Yeah, I see a lot of people talk about Monahan or Tkachuk as the next captain, but I could see Andersson as the next captain.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by SnipeShow

Bit silly to say Ward is trash.

If that is not true, why the ^&^%$ would he start a backup goalie against a hot team on the first game of a road trip?

That choice, alone, makes no sense whatsover. Sure, BSD needs to get a game or two in here and there. But after two "close" (sort of) losses and going against a hot team, I go back to my #1 goalie every time. If you're going to win, that's how it's going to happen. This team had little confidence playing in front of Rittich at times last season, and apparently that has not changed much.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBeGood

Aug 20 Flames were up 3-0 over the Stars, Game 6. Clogging up the middle would have been nice!

They allowed 7 scoring chances that game... unfortunately the goalies let them all in

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Two years of Geoff Ward eh? Giordano and Backlund still part of the leadership group?

I like those two but this is funny.