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Old 01-28-2021, 03:58 PM   #101
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I have a tendency to only swear when it's a natural part of the sentence, and not as a replacement for another word. As a result, I went through a period at my last job where everything was going really well, and without even thinking twice about it went months without swearing at work.

Then one day something happened where I let loose, and everyone reacted like I was murdering puppies. Some of them actually had thought that I was ultra religious or something, and I found out that they had been walking on eggshells around me because of it.

So, not swearing = unintentional intimidation. I also got the impression I was excluded from a couple of after work get togethers because of it, which made me kind of sad. Little assumption having ####ers.
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Old 01-28-2021, 03:59 PM   #102
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lol, don't know what parties you go to, but my friends will politely excuse themselves to use the facilities. We don't "piss".
Weren't you the guy who was getting porta-potties for his parties? Those aren't places you politely excuse yourself to, and they sure aren't facilities.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:00 PM   #103
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Weren't you the guy who was getting porta-potties for his parties? Those aren't places you politely excuse yourself to, and they sure aren't facilities.
I didn't end up getting porta-potties. Just used piss bottles instead.
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This is what I don't understand, but I do thank you for chiming in as a minority-opinion holder in this thread.

Why do you think not swearing brings you closer to perfection, though? What's dumb about swearing? Are there not circumstances where the sh-word or f-word are the most appropriate words to use and any other word isn't the perfect fit? Did your parents not swear and you were raised thinking it was super taboo or bad?
I met someone who gets super annoyed at swearing not because of the word, but because to him, swearing mid sentence was a modern replacement for the verbalized pause (ie: excessive use of sounds such as umm and like). I realized it's kinda true. The profanity helps to convey a certain emotion in the sentence, but can also act like a pause for effect part of the delivery.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:15 PM   #105
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I met someone who gets super annoyed at swearing not because of the word, but because to him, swearing mid sentence was a modern replacement for the verbalized pause (ie: excessive use of sounds such as umm and like). I realized it's kinda true. The profanity helps to convey a certain emotion in the sentence, but can also act like a pause for effect part of the delivery.
Yeah, I suppose sometimes it does give you a minute to collect your thoughts as you're speaking. Like when you start a sentence with a drawn out "faackin..."

I had a teacher in grade six that was all about eradicating the pause words like "ummm" and while I was too young to articulate it at the time, I always remembered that lesson and was pissed off by it for about 20 years. She didn't like pause words, but she was also one of those eloquent and articulate speakers that didn't need them. She thought those of us that did were stupid. While that may be true, you still have to let stupid people get their thoughts out on occasion. If you don't use a pause word, people will assume you're finished speaking and you'll never be able to say what you need to say. Pause words have value because they indicate to others it's still your turn to talk.

If swear words are the new "umm" then it doesn't diminish the purpose of a pause word. Tell your friend Sliver said to go fata himself.
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This is what I don't understand, but I do thank you for chiming in as a minority-opinion holder in this thread.

Why do you think not swearing brings you closer to perfection, though? What's dumb about swearing? Are there not circumstances where the sh-word or f-word are the most appropriate words to use and any other word isn't the perfect fit? Did your parents not swear and you were raised thinking it was super taboo or bad?
When I said I'm not perfect, I didn't mean that not swearing brings me closer to perfection. Perfection is something I'll never strive for, because it just doesn't exist. What I mean is that I'm not perfect because I'll break my own rules, or code, if you will.

In my circles the people who swear the most are generally not very smart. Using the f-word in every sentence, or every other sentence really does nothing positive to the message a person is trying to convey. Others are people who just cause problems. I've kicked people out of our weekly game of shinny because of their aggressive and abrasive nature (we really don't need an enforcer in a game of shinny). Those guys were the type to drop f bombs like they're required to complete a sentence.

My parents didn't swear much. As I'm sitting here thinking about it, I can't recall a time I ever heard my dad swear. Actually, I think I only ever saw him lose his temper once. He was always calm, collected and in control. He did have a temper on him but he knew how to keep it under wraps. My mom, also had a temper, and she would swear when she was mad, but she was terrible at it. She had no clue how to use swears. It was embarrassing yet funny to hear how she would use curse words.
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This is what I don't understand, but I do thank you for chiming in as a minority-opinion holder in this thread.

Why do you think not swearing brings you closer to perfection, though? What's dumb about swearing? Are there not circumstances where the sh-word or f-word are the most appropriate words to use and any other word isn't the perfect fit? Did your parents not swear and you were raised thinking it was super taboo or bad?
Also, I too find the ways some people substitute some words in place of curses to be annoying. Like... fiddlesticks, if you're not going to sound tough don't sound like a pencil neck geek. Sound smart, not nerdy.
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Piss? Eh, I'm a "take a leak" kinda guy.
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Piss? Eh, I'm a "take a leak" kinda guy.
A tour guide in Hawaii told us that the term for that is Liki liki. I don't think it's true, but it was funny so we use that in our house.
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I use "pee" probably more often than "piss" but use "leak" more than either.

"Gotta take a leak"

If I really have to go it might be "Fu*k, I gotta pee so fu*king bad"
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:47 PM   #112
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:55 PM   #113
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I thought I didn't swear around my kids, until my 5 year old daughter taught my 2 year old son to say "####'s sake!".
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:30 PM   #114
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I was thinking along the same. I usually say that I'm going to the washroom if any explanation at all is needed or given lol. Usually I just go.
That being said, when I speak about it in the past sense, I do use the word pee. As in "i just went pee behind the shed" or something similar. I just went Piss sounds funny to me. I just pissed on maybe... I dunno there's something odd there with the words imo.

Did P really just emerge as a contraction to single letter of piss? Genuinely curious.
Well the phrase used would be "I took a piss" same as "I took a leak" And yep, as per the Oxford English Dictionary, "pee" originally developed in the 18th century, when it stood for “the initial letter of piss". "Piss" itself comes from Vulgar Latin

It's used commonly in other phrases across the pond like "piss off" or "taking the piss" to mean joking so it's not in any way a swear word. I'm surprised that it's considered rude or uncouth here. Then again, polite Canadians and that whole stereotype
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:48 PM   #115
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Here are my thoughts on swearing.

There is a time and a place.

Drinking with friends at the bar, sure you can swear in conversation.
Hosting trivia at the bar, I turn the swear switch off.

Driving with friends to a wedding, foul language is acceptable.
Giving a toast at the wedding, the Queen's English is used.

You're watching the Flames play, and the Habs score (as they did while I'm typing this post) then an F*Bomb is acceptable.
You're at your kids' playdate with the neighbours & thier kids, perhaps speaking blue isn't the best choice.

There's a time and place.

With that said, if you can be creative without swearing, that can be better than swearing. Innuendo and tongue & cheek remarks can be more effective getting your point across.

Also, with anything, the more you use a word, the less value it has.

Think of the scenes in Breaking Bad where they drop the F-bomb. They limited it once per season. So when it happened it was a very powerful scene.

Sparce use of swear words increases their power.

I'm not someone that doesn't swear, but I also don't swear a lot. I generally can turn it on and off.

With lanugage, the better you understand it, the better you can manipulate it to your advantage.

But that's just my thoughts, and if you disagree perhaps you're... a... can't understand normal thinking.
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Anyone lip read?

It's French Fries!!!
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Alot of swearing in the last half hour.
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I realized a swear a LOT watching hockey. The booze doesn't help.
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