[PGT] Flames lose to Toronto again, 4-3

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Were you guys watching the same game as me? I saw valimaki contribute heavily to the come back and activate frequently with the offense. He needs to keep playing, press boxing him now will stop any progress.

He's a rookie, so there will be mistakes. Rookies generally spend some time in the pressbox unless they are Makar or Hughes, and inexplicably good right out of the gates. Even future stars only play 2/3s of a rookie campaign.

I actually thought that Nestorov would be the one cycled out for Kylington more, but he has played really well.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I recall others saying Ottawa wanted Valemaki as part of a deal for Stone.

I doubt he would have waived to come here.


Way to early to be passing judgement on Valimaki.

[dammage79]

Our RW is the weakest link. Simon doesn't do anything for me. Leivos been a big fat no show so far. I'm not digging Mangiapanes game either.

Bennett was 50/50 to me today. Half of his play wasn't great but the other half was solid. No penalties, tons of hustle covering other players gaffes.

Just on a total overview of the team I think out biggest glaring weakness is RW. And nothings gonna get done about it.

Still lots of positives about this years team to be excited about. A lot less negative feels for me when I'm watching so far.

I really appreciate Markstroms presence on the Flames and I think our top 6 D can hang with the best in the league.

If Monny and Johnny keep doing the nice 5v5 scoring thing this year on top of a top ranked PP, we will be fine. And let's not forget Lindholm being an amazing center either.

Just need some better RW options.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Not judging things till mid-February. This is basically early October in a normal season with a full training camp.
Though something has to change with the third pairing. They're on for way too many goals agaisnt. I would like to see Kylly + Valli.

Just my opinion, it would be worse!

[Hells Bells]

Backlund, Leivo, Lucic, Bennett, Ryan, Simon and Nordstrom have all been pretty much garbage thus far.

Ward doesn't motivate them to play any better, nor does he discipline them for their poor play.

[motorcrosser]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

If coaching is the problem, which it looks to be a big problem, then fire him now. Don’t wait until it is too late.

But we know that won’t happen. We need to just hope and pray this group, coaches included, can get it done.

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

[Moneyhands23]

Trade for Rakell please

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

Our top players were fine. It was game management and line matching. Players have no choice in that.

[Johnhitbox]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

To be fair, the last coach was actually turning things around. Then he had to go ahead and be a racist ####.

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[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

Lots of crappy ones or one good one.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

I’m gonna disagree. These guys are a talented group. It’s like we have the tools but no toolbox.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Ok, wrister into his shoulder when the game was over. Have you ever taken one of those to the face? It wasn't too far off, and way out of line.

First off, the frequency people here rail on about "have you ever played the game BRO!?" is ridiculous. Yes, I have. I have been hit with pucks, both rubber and roller, I've been hit with hockey balls of varying hardness, I've been hit with dryland training balls. Describing what was done there, was not a wrister. It was a flick. It had no real momentum behind it. Tkachuk's meathead reaction was hilarious and reeks of a guy more upset he couldn't do anything of relevance in game than what was actually done to him.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Teammates are probably sick of his sideshow.

Did you see their faces while they were waiting for him to finish his tantrum? Just pure embarrassment.

Your so full of your own ####. Shooting a puck at an opponent is only thing as disrespectful spitting at another player.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Your so full of your own ####. Shooting a puck at an opponent is only thing as disrespectful spitting at another player.

Sweet christ, that wasn't a shot.

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Trade for Rakell please

Rakell would be a god send.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Its the mix of players. How many different coaches are needed to figure this out?

Flames are missing a top 6 player. Either need a legit RW or another center so Lindholm can back to RW.

[motorcrosser]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Our top players were fine. It was game management and line matching. Players have no choice in that.

But if you had better players to match, wouldn't you have better results? And yes, Backlund was fine...

[dino7c]

Leafs are the best team in the division currently...Calgary lost two one goal games to them despite tons of errors and bad bounces

sort things out, don't throw in the towel just yet

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

First off, the frequency people here rail on about "have you ever played the game BRO!?" is ridiculous. Yes, I have. I have been hit with pucks, both rubber and roller, I've been hit with hockey balls of varying hardness, I've been hit with dryland training balls. Describing what was done there, was not a wrister. It was a flick. It had no real momentum behind it. Tkachuk's meathead reaction was hilarious and reeks of a guy more upset he couldn't do anything of relevance in game than what was actually done to him.

Can't hear you from the basement ..again...

[Dion]

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