01-14-2021, 12:58 PM
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#5721
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Flames1217
Are Stone and Ritchie still around ? Haven't heard anything about the PTOs.
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After the rosters were set, Treliving said they haven't made a decision on the PTOs yet.
Since they haven't been cut, they're probably practicing with the AHL guys who are still in town. I wouldn't be surprised if once the AHL season gets going, they send Robinson and Mackey down to get playing time and then sign Stone and Ritchie for the taxi squad.
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01-14-2021, 12:58 PM
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#5722
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I would do Tkachuk for Dubois in a heart beat
Gaudreau Monahan Dube
Bennett. Dubois. Lindholm
Simon Backlund Mangiapane
Much more balanced line up and Columbus might even throw in a draft pick to balance the trade
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01-14-2021, 01:00 PM
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#5723
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by getbak
After the rosters were set, Treliving said they haven't made a decision on the PTOs yet.
Since they haven't been cut, they're probably practicing with the AHL guys who are still in town. I wouldn't be surprised if once the AHL season gets going, they send Robinson and Mackey down to get playing time and then sign Stone and Ritchie for the taxi squad.
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Just to add to this - Treliving did tell Steinberg that the PTOs were essentially over and that the players were "basically free agents"
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01-14-2021, 01:11 PM
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#5724
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by browntrout
I would do Tkachuk for Dubois in a heart beat
Gaudreau Monahan Dube
Bennett. Dubois. Lindholm
Simon Backlund Mangiapane
Much more balanced line up and Columbus might even throw in a draft pick to balance the trade
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I don't think I would do that but can respect that some fans probably would.
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01-14-2021, 01:16 PM
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#5725
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Ha. Resorting to personal attacks while providing little statistical data to defend your positions. Clearly you do not even watch hockey, or at best, are secretly Oiler fans. I don’t have the time entertain a position so ridiculous. See you in court.
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Court? Nay. I'll see you in hell.
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01-14-2021, 01:16 PM
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#5726
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browntrout
I would do Tkachuk for Dubois in a heart beat
Gaudreau Monahan Dube
Bennett. Dubois. Lindholm
Simon Backlund Mangiapane
Much more balanced line up and Columbus might even throw in a draft pick to balance the trade
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I disagree with our colleague above; this is a bad take. Tkachuk has shown way more at the NHL level during their respective careers, and they were drafted one after the other. Plus chucky has shown nothing but loyalty and dedication to this organization (Dubois has obviously not done this) and is one of the premiere pests in the league. These factors easily outweigh the positional benefit of Dubois. + I believe chucky might still have another gear offensively.
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01-14-2021, 01:16 PM
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#5727
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browntrout
I would do Tkachuk for Dubois in a heart beat
Gaudreau Monahan Dube
Bennett. Dubois. Lindholm
Simon Backlund Mangiapane
Much more balanced line up and Columbus might even throw in a draft pick to balance the trade
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Tkachuk is the heartbeat of the team and the future captain. I don’t see it as an option for the Flames unless he low key told the team he would like to leave which I highly doubt would be the case.
Columbus would need a significant add in my opinion very significant
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01-14-2021, 01:29 PM
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#5728
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First Line Centre
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Since everyone is throwing terrible trade scenarios out, I’ll give one a shot:
Backlund and Hanifin for PLD:
Tkachuk-PLD-Lindholm (shutdown line)
Gaudreau-Monahan-Leivo
Mangiapane-Bennett-Dube
Lucic-Ryan-Simon/Nordstrom
Gio-Andersson
Valimaki-Tanev
Mackey-Nesterov
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01-14-2021, 01:33 PM
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#5729
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#1 Goaltender
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Not surprised to hear the Flames are serious about acquiring Dubois. We heard on the FAN 960 that the Flames had a huge deal on the table that involved the likes of Monahan for Josh Anderson. So with Columbus already showing interest in #23, I think the potential is there for a swap now that the Dubois rift has reached its climax.
3 years of Monahan for a win now team like Columbus has to be pretty darn attractive. I mean, it’s not a futures only trade, it’s not a quantity for quality exchange. It’s a legitimate lateral trade that could potentially benefit both sides.
Plus, with the way Josh Anderson preformed last night, it’s not crazy to think that maybe Dubois could also pop offensively here. Maybe Tortorella’s style is just that restrictive. I’m all in on a Monahan+ for Dubois swap.
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01-14-2021, 01:36 PM
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#5730
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
I disagree with our colleague above; this is a bad take. Tkachuk has shown way more at the NHL level during their respective careers, and they were drafted one after the other. Plus chucky has shown nothing but loyalty and dedication to this organization (Dubois has obviously not done this) and is one of the premiere pests in the league. These factors easily outweigh the positional benefit of Dubois. + I believe chucky might still have another gear offensively.
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The key is what one thinks about Tkachuk’s progression. If he does have another offensive gear (or even a defensive gear), OK. Or - is what you see nw what you are going to get, which is a very good forward who sometimes can disappear a bit. I think most agree PLD is still on an upward trajectory.
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01-14-2021, 01:36 PM
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#5731
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Dubois is being overrated.
Tkachuk is a much better 200ft player at this point in their careers, wouldn't make that trade even if Columbus added.
Monahan with a plus (1st or comparable prospect) is the trade that would make the most sense.
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01-14-2021, 01:40 PM
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#5732
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I pointed this out earlier. Super odd 5 day break pops up out of nowhere for us...
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Not odd at all. There are 7 teams in the division so 1 team will not be playing games while the other 6 are facing each other which could be 2-3 games in 3-5 nights.
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01-14-2021, 01:42 PM
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#5733
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by SeanCharles
Since everyone is throwing terrible trade scenarios out, I’ll give one a shot:
Backlund and Hanifin for PLD:
Tkachuk-PLD-Lindholm (shutdown line)
Gaudreau-Monahan-Leivo
Mangiapane-Bennett-Dube
Lucic-Ryan-Simon/Nordstrom
Gio-Andersson
Valimaki-Tanev
Mackey-Nesterov
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I don’t see how the CBJ can fit Backlund and Hanifin under the salary cap. Do you know how they could do it?
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01-14-2021, 01:44 PM
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#5734
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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When did Monahan’s 10 team list kick in?
Reason I ask is I wonder if he knew that he was potentially risky involved in an Anderson deal and once his NTC kicked in post draft he added Columbus to that list?
Anyone suggestions Backlund needs to know he has a full NTC this season and I don’t see him waiving it at all nor do I see Columbus trading for a guy a decade older.
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01-14-2021, 01:45 PM
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#5735
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First Line Centre
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01-14-2021, 01:45 PM
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#5736
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp: 
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I am a big PLD fan but come on, the guy hasn't ever cracked 65 points. Are we this excited for a guy that had 1 good playoff performance?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have him but trading one of Johnny, Monny, or Lindholm isn't how you do it.
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01-14-2021, 01:52 PM
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#5737
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Nelson
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I remember when Kypreos called out Steinberg on the eve of free agency denouncing Pat’s claim that Markstrom was interested in coming to Calgary and stating that he wanted to go to Edmonton to play behind McDavid.
We all know how that ended. Not sure what Kypreos is doing to stay relevant but this feels like a Eric Francis opinion that is presented like fact
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01-14-2021, 01:53 PM
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#5738
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Originally Posted by Nelson
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LOL that figures and doesn't actually surprise.
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01-14-2021, 01:55 PM
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#5739
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by Nelson
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Does it actually matter where he wants to go?
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01-14-2021, 01:55 PM
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#5740
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hansmoleman
I am a big PLD fan but come on, the guy hasn't ever cracked 65 points. Are we this excited for a guy that had 1 good playoff performance?
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have him but trading one of Johnny, Monny, or Lindholm isn't how you do it.
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Hes 22 years old and still more of a complete player than Monahan could ever hope to be.
Hes coming into his own and his potential has no ceiling.
I for one do NOT want to watch invisible Monahan in another first round exit.
This reminds me of the time when people on this board wouldn't trade Monahan for MacKinnon. Then MacKinnon came into his own and simply exploded. Now who wouldnt do that trade?
I believe Dubois is about to come into his own. Now is the time to make the move. This opportunity is not going to happen again.
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