DC Capitol Riot & Subsequent Fallout Thread (Jan 2021)

[combustiblefuel]

A capital police officer has died after being struck in the head by a fire extinguisher.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...led/index.html

[David Struch]

Just so we know rhe whole family was in on inciting the riot.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00010223762701

[David Struch]

Trump said he was going to march to Capital Hill with them but he backed out.

https://thewire.in/world/washington-...ld-trump-pence

[BowRiverBruinsRule]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Just so we know the whole family was in on inciting the riot.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00010223762701

That's hard to watch. The sooner this entire family goes away the better.

[devo22]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347901957466415111

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347902869173903367


of course it was Florida Man!

[starseed]

So, a London ON neonatal intensive care unit RN:
-Previously helped organize an anti-mask rally, defying government restrictions, and her own profession
-Travels internationally in the middle of a pandemic
-Posts videos of herself maskless in a crowd
-Participated in what turned out to be an armed insurrection against a foreign democracy
-Posts a video with other fascist nurses about how unfair the media has portrayed them before heading home
-Still hasn't been fired or arrested

Unbelievable.


https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject...rom%20%251%24s

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[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Yes the whole BLM are just as bad argument really pisses me off, these are pretty much all well off middle class well fed white folks who are basically in charge of the richest country in the world and have nothing to fear which explains why their insurrection was as half arsed and tragi/comic as it was, the poor black underclass that occasionally is pushed too far have nothing in comparison, it doesnt excuse vandalism or arson when for just once in their meager lives they find themselves with a little bit of power and abuse it but it does explain it somewhat

Now explain the justification for a bunch of middle class well fed white radicals to set up the autonomous zone in Seattle and launch nightly attacks on state buildings in Portland. I expect most Black Americans watching that mayhem on TV thought they were a bunch of loons.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Now explain the justification for a bunch of middle class well fed white radicals to set up the autonomous zone in Seattle and launch nightly attacks on state buildings in Portland. I expect most Black Americans watching that mayhem on TV thought they were a bunch of loons.

Still a false equivalency.

They were not ordered to do so by the sitting president of the United States.

They did not announce they were going to do it ahead of time, and they were actually met with a law enforcement response.

The claims of their grievances were not made up from whole cloth, (I'm not saying they were justified, I am just saying they were operating within the bounds of reality when the formulated their complaints).

Your comparison only servers the more egregious conspiracy theorists goal of making themselves sound legitimate. If you want to talk about how stupid the people in the free zone were, I'm sure there is a thread about that and you wont get a lot of flack from people.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by #-3

Still a false equivalency.

They were not ordered to do so by the sitting president of the United States.

They did not announce they were going to do it ahead of time, and they were actually met with a law enforcement response.

I'm not claiming equivalency. I'm responding to afc's point that he has sympathy for black rioters because of the injustice they endure. So I'm asking if he grants the same sympathy to middle-class white anarchists.

Toleration of the CHAZ and Portland lawlessness was a mistake that hurt the Democrats politically. I understand that assaulting the capitol to overturn an election ratification is a whole different kettle of fish. But if the Democrats genuinely want to be seen as a party that defends law and order (and they should, because the overwhelming majority of voters do), then shrugging off the violent takeover of an entire neighbourhood for a month and anarchists setting fire to federal courthouses as misdirected high spirits was not a good look.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I'm not claiming equivalency. I'm responding to afc's point that he has sympathy for black rioters because of the injustice they endure. So I'm asking if he grants the same sympathy to middle-class white anarchists.

Toleration of the CHAZ and Portland lawlessness was a mistake that hurt the Democrats politically. I understand that assaulting the capitol to overturn an election ratification is a whole different kettle of fish. But if the Democrats genuinely want to be seen as a party that defends law and order (and they should, because the overwhelming majority of voters do), then shrugging off the violent takeover of an entire neighbourhood and anarchists setting fires to federal courthouses as misdirected high spirits is not a good look.

Again, who was the Democrat that called for or endorsed those actions?

You're not wrong about the nature of the riot in Seattle, but you are wrong to apply the narrative to the Democratic party, in the way this narrative should be applied to the Republican party.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by starseed

So, a London ON neonatal intensive care unit RN:
-Previously helped organize an anti-mask rally, defying government restrictions, and her own profession
-Travels internationally in the middle of a pandemic
-Posts videos of herself maskless in a crowd
-Participated in what turned out to be an armed insurrection against a foreign democracy
-Posts a video with other fascist nurses about how unfair the media has portrayed them before heading home
-Still hasn't been fired or arrested

Unbelievable.


https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject...rom%20%251%24s

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God I wish I didn't go down that rabbit hole. I can't believe how many Canadians have a "Canada for Trump" picture frame on their facebook page.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by devo22

https://imgur.com/gallery/UTan2LR#gvzTUP7

it's still incredible to me that so many of these people not only showed their faces while committing crimes, but happily documented and uploaded them themselves. FBI and law enforcement must be in stitches.

All I can think of is that video of that toothless Hispanic man laughing himself into a coma and imagining thats the Director of the FBI.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by #-3

Again, who was the Democrat that called for or endorsed those actions?

A lot of them, tacitly. Even the mayors of the cities in which it was taking place. I mean, Trump didn't openly tell people to commit terrorism, either - he just made the right kind of noises to signal that it was okay by him if they did something extreme because they felt they were being wronged. He even repeatedly said to "keep things peaceful". So did a lot of Democrats last spring. If you see clips of buildings on fire, and the next clip is Tom Perez talking about how the "protests" are giving voice to deep seated inequalities in society, the message is not "I'm against what's happening". For those who didn't shrug it off, the message was often, "I don't condone violence, but I completely understand why this is happening because we've suffered with racism and inequality for too long", which, fair enough, but it's certainly not a message that's going to dissuade the people doing it.

Biden certainly came out with some strong condemnations, but not until later on.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

A lot of them, tacitly. Even the mayors of the cities in which it was taking place. I mean, Trump didn't openly tell people to commit terrorism, either - he just made the right kind of noises to signal that it was okay by him if they did something extreme because they felt they were being wronged. He even repeatedly said to "keep things peaceful". So did a lot of Democrats last spring. If you see clips of buildings on fire, and the next clip is Tom Perez talking about how the "protests" are giving voice to deep seated inequalities in society, the message is not "I'm against what's happening". For those who didn't shrug it off, the message was often, "I don't condone violence, but I completely understand why this is happening because we've suffered with racism and inequality for too long", which, fair enough, but it's certainly not a message that's going to dissuade the people doing it.

Biden certainly came out with some strong condemnations, but not until later on.

He literally said to march down there and do that and then his lawyer then said " let's have trial by combat"......

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347911730215739393

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Seems about right.......gun, flag, Trump on Fox news.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347751168534052869

[Titan]

Originally Posted by starseed

So, a London ON neonatal intensive care unit RN:
-Previously helped organize an anti-mask rally, defying government restrictions, and her own profession
-Travels internationally in the middle of a pandemic
-Posts videos of herself maskless in a crowd
-Participated in what turned out to be an armed insurrection against a foreign democracy
-Posts a video with other fascist nurses about how unfair the media has portrayed them before heading home
-Still hasn't been fired or arrested

Unbelievable.


https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject...rom%20%251%24s

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She has been placed on unpaid administrative leave pending an investigation.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

God I wish I didn't go down that rabbit hole. I can't believe how many Canadians have a "Canada for Trump" picture frame on their facebook page.

Stupidity transcends borders, unfortunately.

[Locke]

Its like Trump is a Drug. One that rots out the rational part of your brain.

Something that makes otherwise educated and intelligent individuals start doing insane things entirely out of character.

It wouldnt surprise me one bit if a year after being heaved out of the White House he has a fenced-off compound in Costa Rica called 'Trumporea.'

And Kushner will probably be his Kamp Kommandante.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Seems about right.......gun, flag, Trump on Fox news.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347751168534052869

Good god, look at this guy. Does he actually think he is some kind of freedom fighter? He looks ridiculous.