[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[devo22]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347221171574624256

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Why is it always Democrats responsibility to reach across the aisle?

Where was Republican compromise in the last 12 years?

It's note solely their responsibility, but somebody has to be the adult in the room, you know, for the sake of governing the entire ####ing nation. The work needs to be done.

[dammage79]

I just got a FB scolding for saying the Camp Auschwitz staff hoodie guy needed a punch in the face. I thought that was how you were supposed to treat nazis.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by devo22

https://twitter.com/user/status/1347221171574624256

Can this be accomplished with only a simple majority in the senate?

[surferguy]

Has there been developments at all regarding the 25th or immediate impeachment?

[Robbob]

What would granting statehood to DC mean? Easier to call in national guard?

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Robbob

What would granting statehood to DC mean? Easier to call in national guard?

They would have their own guard plus they would have representation in Congress which would almost certainly be Democratic.

edit- Same with Puerto Rico and maybe Guam.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

and 2 Senators.

[TorqueDog]

Grant statehood to Puerto Rico while they're at it.

[nfotiu]

Merge the Dakotas while they are at it.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Grant statehood to Puerto Rico while they're at it.

Isn't this a bit of a misrepresented issue on the left? I thought PR didn't overwhelming want statehood because they have a sweet spot with American protection and no federal tax right now?

I could be very wrong though

[troutman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

On May 16, 2020, Puerto Rican Governor Wanda Vázquez announced that Puerto Rico would hold a nonbinding referendum on November 3, 2020 to decide whether Puerto Rico should become a state. As of November 4, 2020, with 95.11% of precincts reporting, statehood leads the referendum 52.19%–47.81%.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Mull

Isn't this a bit of a misrepresented issue on the left? I thought PR didn't overwhelming want statehood because they have a sweet spot with American protection and no federal tax right now?

I could be very wrong though

The past referendums had a majority voting for statehood. It is shrinking though with more and more people actually becoming in favour of decolonization (they are technically still a colony) and independence.

There are political motives for Democrats to want DC and Puerto Rico to become states, but keep in mind that Republicans pushed for Hawaii to become a state for the same reason. It was seen a sure thing for the Republicans to get guaranteed reps, but fast forward to today, and it backfired.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Can this be accomplished with only a simple majority in the senate?

My understanding is that statehood requires a clear desire from the citizens of the proposed state to become a state -- which there is in both DC and PR -- plus simple majority votes in both houses of congress followed by approval from the President.

With the Dems now having control of both houses and the White House, both could be pushed through if all votes were along straight party lines.

I don't know if all Democrat Senators would necessarily vote in favour of statehood for either or both.


PR isn't a guaranteed Democrat stronghold, but DC is. Adding 4 new senators would almost certainly break the tie and give the Dems a little breathing room.

[nfotiu]

DC would be such a weird state. Lots of people work there, but almost no one lives there. You could easily see the whole state in a day. Almost all of the land is federally owned. It's good strategically for the democrats, but it's pretty hard to justify it being a state.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

DC would be such a weird state. Lots of people work there, but almost no one lives there. You could easily see the whole state in a day. Almost all of the land is federally owned. It's good strategically for the democrats, but it's pretty hard to justify it being a state.

It has about the same population as either of the Dakota's and Montana and significantly more than Wyoming at 711,000 approx'

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Mull

Isn't this a bit of a misrepresented issue on the left? I thought PR didn't overwhelming want statehood because they have a sweet spot with American protection and no federal tax right now?

I could be very wrong though

If there was only a resource where you could look that information up and find out how very wrong on all accounts you are?

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

DC would be such a weird state. Lots of people work there, but almost no one lives there. You could easily see the whole state in a day. Almost all of the land is federally owned. It's good strategically for the democrats, but it's pretty hard to justify it being a state.

Yet everyone that does live there pays taxes, but has no representation. They should be a state.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by New Era

If there was only a resource where you could look that information up and find out how very wrong on all accounts you are?

Ohh Snarky

I didn't realize I accidently got under your skin enough to have you post that, sorry for that.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

DC would be such a weird state. Lots of people work there, but almost no one lives there. You could easily see the whole state in a day. Almost all of the land is federally owned. It's good strategically for the democrats, but it's pretty hard to justify it being a state.

I think it’s weirder that it’s not already a state, personally.