DC Capitol Riot & Subsequent Fallout Thread (Jan 2021)

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by troutman

I've always wondered - when there are big protests in Washington, where do all these people stay? Is there enough hotel rooms for tens of thousands of people?

washington.org

Baltimore is a half hour up the road, surely they take a lot of people.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by Pizza

images of the west side shows the police are using more flash bangs and smoke grenades to disperse the crowd.
Police slowly escorting people off the steps and grounds on the west side

Shouldn’t the police be dispersing the crowd by moving them into a confined area and arresting them then and there?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

You have to understand the density of the east coast. DC is super close to a lot of areas and major cities. It's one of the big reasons I loved living in the area.

True - but some protests involve a million ? people or more. It boggles my mind how this many people can be accommodated.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Coups are a carefully planned conspiracy carried out by military officers to seize all the levers of power of a state.

This isn’t a coup. It’s a deranged narcissist unleashing his moronic social media followers to cause mayhem.

Far be it from me to correct CliffFletcher, but a coup is not limited to the military. Coups are defined as "a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics." There have been many coups that did not include the military. Unsually the only time the military gets involved is if a high ranking member of the military is the one who desires power.

This could easily be argued it was a coup, but I think it fails an important test. The problem is they did not occupy and maintain an office of power. The only thing this did was probably put the finishing touches on the Trump ####show of a presidency. Had they attempted to take political prisoners or control over a body of governance, then this would have been a straight up coup. But like their sociopathic leader, these morons didn't think this through and have a plan or end game. This is a display of lunacy is just a bunch of mouth breathers displaying their faux rage over change in America and them not being from the majority demographic any longer.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

They've spread to Calgary city hall... we've been infected

https://twitter.com/user/status/1346935987281162243

What the heck for?

[Pizza]

Originally Posted by troutman

I've always wondered - when there are big protests in Washington, where do all these people stay? Is there enough hotel rooms for tens of thousands of people?

washington.org

Dont underestimate Crown/private land camping outside the city

yes, even in the winter months

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

What the heck for?

Freedom, of course.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The barriers seemed to be working fine until they were opened.

At the very least, if the police felt afraid and helpless, they could have backed down and the terrorists could have opened it themselves. The officers actually physically helped them break the law. That is above and beyond.

It's no different than when mass looting happens. Sometimes the police have no choice but to stand back and observe. But you don't see them go and hold the doors open for them.

How do you know they were working? This apparently unfolded as the crowd grew, forcing it's way closer and closer. There are many reports that they were using pepper spray on the police to gain access to restricted doors. This obviously forced authorities to focus on protecting the people inside the building versus trying in vain to hold off a mob from many access points.

Looting is in no way the same as thousands of people pushing in on you trying to force their way inside a building. They were not properly prepared, but why make the police an accomplice to this? It's beyond petty in this case.

[karl262]

Originally Posted by troutman

I've always wondered - when there are big protests in Washington, where do all these people stay? Is there enough hotel rooms for tens of thousands of people?

washington.org

In this case living in a trailer has its advantages.

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[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by peter12

Hard not to say that this was seditious and treason.

I don't think anyone will say it though. Anyone that can enforce it at least.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by New Era

Far be it from me to correct CliffFletcher, but a coup is not limited to the military. Coups are defined as "a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics." There have been many coups that did not include the military. Unsually the only time the military gets involved is if a high ranking member of the military is the one who desires power.

This could easily be argued it was a coup, but I think it fails an important test. The problem is they did not occupy and maintain an office of power. The only thing this did was probably put the finishing touches on the Trump ####show of a presidency. Had they attempted to take political prisoners or control over a body of governance, then this would have been a straight up coup. But like their sociopathic leader, these morons didn't think this through and have a plan or end game. This is a display of lunacy is just a bunch of mouth breathers displaying their faux rage over change in America and them not being from the majority demographic any longer.

One guy got to sit at Nancy Pelosi’s desk

Um... Cool.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by troutman

True - but some protests involve a million people or more. It boggles my mind how this many people can be accommodated.

Not everyone will need to be accommodated. Many travelled for just the day. The surrounding states will absorb a lot, plus, from what I was reading of screenshots from Parler (on twitter), many planned to camp, whether that was in campgrounds or just setting up any old place.

I have a friend in VA that works in DC, as does her husband. She said (years ago) that most of the people who work in DC don't live there, everyone commutes from the closest states.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by troutman

True - but some protests involve a million people or more. It boggles my mind how this many people can be accommodated.

Right but when you can get to DC in less time than it takes to go from Calgary to Red Deer or Edmonton you could easily protest for the day and head home. If these people are traveling from farther away they could easily stay in Baltimore, Richmond or anywhere in between. It's a weird area where they have lots of towns that aren't really towns. More like satellite suburbs.

[Pizza]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Shouldn’t the police be dispersing the crowd by moving them into a confined area and arresting them then and there?

that's a little hard to do when the police are literally outnumbered. You want a peaceful outcome, so disperse the crowd peacefully and identify the leaders and key individuals later. Arresting them on the spot might provoke the mob.

Not to mention where they would hold the sheer number of the arrested.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm not smart on US law and due process. bu the 25th ammendment is written around the death of a president or his resignation from office. Not for the removal of a sitting President. As well the mechanism looks like there's a vote, there's a set of due processes for the removal, and there's a 21 day requirement for response. But I could be totally wrong, but I don't think it really applies here, and would take longer then the inauguration of Biden.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

What the heck for?

I drove past an anti-mask (science) rally in Red Deer a few weeks ago and there was a lady with a sign that said "JESUS KNOWS TRUMP WON"

so yeah. I don't know if that answers your question, but some people live on facebook.

[Iceman57]

Wow, quite the impressive celebration at the US Capitol building for their World Jr Champions, well done 🇺🇸

[Robo]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

What the heck for?

Originally Posted by FlameOn

They've spread to Calgary city hall... we've been infected

https://twitter.com/user/status/1346935987281162243

Do all trump supporters just share one brain and it has been activated to go to nearest government building God what a bunch of morons

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by troutman

True - but some protests involve a million ? people or more. It boggles my mind how this many people can be accommodated.

The East Coast also has Amtrak so you can get from New York to DC in three hours.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Shouldn’t the police be dispersing the crowd by moving them into a confined area and arresting them then and there?

It will be EZ to track and arrest people once they've had their microchips injected.