Practice notes Jan 6

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Well in theory, Lindholm is a strong 2-way forward, so if he can play Backlund's tough minutes, we can protect Dube, Bennett or Mangiapane instead of Backlund.

That's a big "if".....when his other contributions are in much bigger demand.

I have no doubt he has the skill to do so but his offense is more sorely needed than his ability to shut down others. If he could do both together, that would be best case scenario. It would also make him bordering on elite level...which i think is a huge reach. He is a terrific player and is a big part of things now...just not convinced there is another level there.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I wonder if it would be quicker to create a username “Backlund has a NTC” and thank all the posts about him being exposed in the expansion draft

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Seattle’s not going to draft only young players. They are going to want some veterans as well . If for some reason Backlund is left exposed, I have no doubt in my mind they would select him.

Time will tell, obviously we are both spitting in the wind, but my assumption is that if Bennett is exposed he is %100 gone.

My sense with the veteran angle is that Seattle will have nearly unlimited purchasing power in free agency and they can hand select older players to fill out their roster, including the cap and term they want.

I just don't know of any team that wants to pay a 32 year old 5.3M for three more years.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Especially the NTC part of his contract, no?

I hadn't thought of it much, but NTC can still be exposed no? its NMC that can't be exposed no?

Getback SureLoss or Scorp will probably know off hand.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I wonder if it would be quicker to create a username “Backlund has a NTC” and thank all the posts about him being exposed in the expansion draft

A no-trade clause does not prevent somebody from being exposed in the expansion draft.

Only a no-movement clause does this.

https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/nhl-...01/c-289908006

For instance, a player with a no-movement clause in his contract must be included on a team's protected list unless he waives it. Players with no-trade clauses only do not qualify as no-movement clauses and must be protected or otherwise will be available to be selected.

[Poe969]

Backlund can be exposed. He only has a NTC, if he had a NNC he would have to be protected u less he waived it.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I hadn't thought of it much, but NTC can still be exposed no? its NMC that can't be exposed no?

Getback SureLoss or Scorp will probably know off hand.

You may be right. I thought NTCs had to be protected, but maybe it is just NMCs - I wonder if a MNTC with a 10 person list could see the player add Seattle

[transplant99]

Yes Backlund can be exposed and have no say in it...however if he was to be traded he needs to agree.

[Poe969]

In that situation they aren't being traded. Backlund does NOT have to be protected.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Seattle’s not going to draft only young players. They are going to want some veterans as well . If for some reason Backlund is left exposed, I have no doubt in my mind they would select him.

And Seattle has to claim a certain amount of contract dollars per the expansion draft rules so yes by definition they will need some veteran, bigger contract players.

And wouldn’t Backlund’s 10 team trade list would allow him to be exposed? I thought only NMC’s protected the player from waivers or expansion.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

A no-trade clause does not prevent somebody from being exposed in the expansion draft.

Only a no-movement clause does this.

https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/nhl-...01/c-289908006

Well, I’ll be. That’s a really weird thing. Could have sworn I read that NTCs did need protection somewhere

The intent from a player’s point would be destination control.

I thought the practical main difference between NMC and NTC was also avoiding demotion.

I stand corrected!

* And perplexed. Wonder why a player would fight to agree to NTC but be silent on expansion draft

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Well, I’ll be. That’s a really weird thing. Could have sworn I read that NTCs did need protection somewhere

The intent from a player’s point would be destination control.

I thought the practical main difference between NMC and NTC was also avoiding demotion.

I stand corrected!

* And perplexed. Wonder why a player would fight to agree to NTC but be silent on expansion draft

lol your comment about creating a user “Backlund has a NTC”... what a buffoon

[Poe969]

Getting a NTC was huge for Backlund, there is no way he would have got a NMC with that contract. Maybe if.his contract started with a 3 he'd get a full NMC.

[Eric Vail]

I like Lindholm at RW. The Flames have a weakness at the position, and Lindholm is our best there. If he plays centre, then he displaces someone from their best position - like Monahan or Backlund, which isn't great.

People are discounting how good a player Backlund is. He is an excellent centre, even though he doesn't put up 30 goals and 80 points. He was one of the best Flames in the playoffs last year. Some sound like they simply want to discard him so Lindholm can play centre. That doesn't make any sense.

With Lindholm at centre, right wing looks much weaker for the Flames.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Getting a NTC was huge for Backlund, there is no way he would have got a NMC with that contract. Maybe if.his contract started with a 3 he'd get a full NMC.

If his contract was a year shorter, and a 1M less keeping him would be a no brainer.

Its the 5.3M at 34 that I don't like.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by keenan87

lol your comment about creating a user “Backlund has a NTC”... what a buffoon

Totally necessary comment.

[flam12345]

If they really want to expose Backlund and he gets taken, the flames might as well trade one of monahan and gaudreau. In my opinion they aren't going anywhere without Backlund. So they might have to go back to a rebuild.

[Samonadreau]

Someone should create a username called "NTCisntExpDraftSxempt" and thank every post that thinks a NTC is expansion draft exempt.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by keenan87

lol your comment about creating a user “Backlund has a NTC”... what a buffoon

Haha. Cute. I thought it was a funny idea, works for This Post is Terrible

Supposing I did something ridiculous, I do have the capacity to be embarrassed. Just saying, it’s not a bad trait to have

[Toonage]

Back to lines. I think Mangiapane-Backlund-Ryan is a fine line defensively with an offensive pop when you can match at home. On the road? This line gets creamed.