California is on fire, half the country love Putin, riots in the streets, an unprecedented pandemic infecting and killing Americans at an insanely disproportionate rate to the rest of the world, economy tanking...
This is worse than anyone thought it would play out.
Well excluding two outside forces (wildfire and pandemic), yeah I’d say most people warning others about the dangers of Trump discussed those exact points.
Sure, it’s worse. But the warnings weren’t exaggerated, as many said at the time.
Are you actually arguing with me on my point of “exactly”?
“#### is bad, as predicted”
“Well, #### isn’t bad. It’s REALLY bad. Idiot”
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Bunch of pathetic cowards, every single one of 'em. Their stupid, seditious bulls*** won't change a thing of course, and Biden will still be Prez. But the act of doing this could be very damaging to U.S. democracy going forward. It's just so sad witnessing how far that country has fallen in just 4 years.
I think the America we knew from before is gone now. Yes, there's a point to be made about how corrupt things were already before Trump, but to say that things weren't made exponentially worse by this administration is just inaccurate in my view.
I think the America we knew from before is gone now. Yes, there's a point to be made about how corrupt things were already before Trump, but to say that things weren't made exponentially worse by this administration is just inaccurate in my view.
The only hope is for the Democrats to get control of the senate, then with all 3 branches, behave in a manner dramatically different than they have historically
People...... the US what it once was is dead. How have not more people realized this?
Please tell me you didn’t think “oh Democrats now America saved”??????!!!!
This country is in terminal decline. Also, so is ours. It’s just going to take a few years before people realize it. Ive posted this a few times. It’s insanely obvious.
I wouldn't go as far as saying terminal decline, but the writing is on the wall and decline is pretty clear. I expect America and Canada to be like European powers and the UK have been since WW2. They will still be important, influential, and offer a quality of life that many enjoy, but they will be left behind in development and in global influence. The big difference this time is that the rising power won't be an offshoot of Europe that assumes the lead. The future of growth and innovation is in the youth populations of emerging markets in the global south. The West is about to be moved out of the driver's seat.
It will be a very uncomfortable transition, and it already is for many. Those with wealth and power from the West will be fine, but the majority will find themselves lacking the advantaged position they used to benefit from in global markets. Average people are going to face competition like they never have before, and it is going to tear at the fabric of institutions that have been built during an extended period of Western global dominance.
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The far-fetched legal effort sought to permit Pence to sidestep federal election law when he presides over a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Rather than carry out his statutory duty to finalize Biden’s win, Pence would be free to effectively grant himself and President Trump a second term.
The vice president’s role in presiding over the Jan. 6 meeting is usually a ceremonial one governed by an 1887 federal law known as the Electoral Count Act. But the Republican lawsuit asked the judge to invalidate the law, arguing that it places an unconstitutional constraint on the vice president's authority to choose among competing claims of victory when state-level election results are disputed.
The lawsuit was an outgrowth of GOP efforts in several key battleground states to overturn Biden’s win based on the unsubstantiated theory that his victory was tainted by widespread fraud. Republicans in several key swing states have disputed Biden's win and offered alternate "slates" of pro-Trump electors to be counted Wednesday, but experts say these efforts carry no legal weight.
Lol. Just when I thought I'd seen everything with these assclowns, now we have a GOP representative trying to sue a GOP vice president? You couldn't make this stuff up.
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So obviously I'm not up on my Parler conspiracies... why do they think Pence is getting arrested now?
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I think this is mostly about the congressional Trump allies, who want to run their own presidential candidate, and by making out that Pence is not going to every extreme possible to install Trump, they can make the argument that Pence is not a true Trump ally, paving the way for a congressional Trump-ally republican (likely not Gomert himself but someone like Hawley) to gain Trump's faction, should a literal Trump not run in 2024.
edit: apologies for that awful run-on sentence. It is what it is.
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Louie Gohmert responds to his failed suit and says they will appeal. The objections on Jan 6th will provide those in the house and the senate with electoral fraud evidence. Further to that Louie seems to believe that he can get some Democrats to change the way they vote on the 6th.
Guy needs some serious medical help.
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The only hope is for the Democrats to get control of the senate, then with all 3 branches, behave in a manner dramatically different than they have historically
That's not the 3 branches. The 3 branches are the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial. The Senate and House combined make up the Legislative branch.
"Control" of the Judicial branch is a hard thing to quantify. The Supreme Court currently has a 6-3 ratio of Justices appointed by Republicans (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett) and Democrats (Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan) respectively.
However, the Judicial branch is more than just the Supreme Court. There are the 13 appeals, or circuit courts, made up of 179 Justices. Below them are the 89 District courts, consisting of more than 700 active and senior Judges.
Spread across all these levels of the Judiciary, 401 currently active Judges were appointed by Democratic Presidents, and 422 were appointed by Republican Presidents.
At least, these are the numbers according to Wikipedia, so, grain of salt and all that.
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That's not the 3 branches. The 3 branches are the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial. The Senate and House combined make up the Legislative branch.
"Control" of the Judicial branch is a hard thing to quantify. The Supreme Court currently has a 6-3 ratio of Justices appointed by Republicans (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett) and Democrats (Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan) respectively.
However, the Judicial branch is more than just the Supreme Court. There are the 13 appeals, or circuit courts, made up of 179 Justices. Below them are the 89 District courts, consisting of more than 700 active and senior Judges.
Spread across all these levels of the Judiciary, 401 currently active Judges were appointed by Democratic Presidents, and 422 were appointed by Republican Presidents.
At least, these are the numbers according to Wikipedia, so, grain of salt and all that.
Yes, I know this but misspoke. Apologies. Branch was the wrong word
Lots of info about the judicial branch in your post but in my brief and admittedly unspecific post I was referring to effecting change more so than having concerns about interpreting and applying the law
Was meaning the three that factor in to establishing legislation, with the exec having ability to check (as we have just seen, with veto that can be overridden)
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