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Old 12-18-2020, 12:47 AM   #121
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That doesn't match my experience. Neither my parents and their friends, nor my friends' parents, were at all bashful about drinking in front of us. I was mixing drinks for my parents and their friends by the time I was 10, between being sent off to the store to buy smokes. My best friend's parents had a boozy darts league in their basement bar every Saturday. Like I said, half the homes in suburban Calgary had a bar in them at one time. But they considered alcohol a social lubricant. Drinking alone was associated with the mean drunk next door who beat his wife, or the depressed housewife who drank wine every day while she watched soap operas. If anything has changed, it's the fact adults with kids socialize with friends and neighbours less often.
Truth bomb. I'm only 31 and this was life. I remember being left in cars like my parents were in front of bars 30 years prior to them being parents.

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Yeah, when I was a kid my parents would either throw a party or drag me out to a party almost every weekend (or at least it felt like it). Fortunately, my best friend was usually also there. It was a fairly regular occurrence for me to fall asleep and get carried to the car or, if it was at our house, to fall asleep to the sound of a bunch of Russians singing, yelling, dancing or whatever. I have no idea how there wasn't at least one DUI.
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Yeah, when I was a kid my parents would either throw a party or drag me out to a party almost every weekend (or at least it felt like it). Fortunately, my best friend was usually also there. It was a fairly regular occurrence for me to fall asleep and get carried to the car or, if it was at our house, to fall asleep to the sound of a bunch of Russians singing, yelling, dancing or whatever. I have no idea how there wasn't at least one DUI.
easy. they didn't nail people for it back in the day. I have heard many stories from drinkers in the 1960's and 70's who if they were pulled over just told the cops they were going home, and it was ok.

I have a friend who tells a story about being 3 sheets to the wind in the early 80's who was pulled over and all the cops told him was to turn on his ####ing lights.

drunk driving was almost a normal activity.
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:29 AM   #124
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Love beer, drink it most Fridays and Saturdays. I also love experimenting and making all kinds of cocktails. I would say there was a time in my 20s-30s I drank most days but as I approach 50 I don't really drink much during the week anymore. I don't think it was ever a conscious decision to only have a drink on the weekend, just the way my cravings naturally changed through time I guess.

Like some others have said here. Growing up in the 80s my parents and extended family were always having get togethers where the cocktails flowed freely. Into my 20s-30s kitchen gatherings were the norm.
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easy. they didn't nail people for it back in the day. I have heard many stories from drinkers in the 1960's and 70's who if they were pulled over just told the cops they were going home, and it was ok.

I have a friend who tells a story about being 3 sheets to the wind in the early 80's who was pulled over and all the cops told him was to turn on his ####ing lights.

drunk driving was almost a normal activity.
In those days it was ridiculously easy to hire a lawyer and either get no suspension or 3 months max. I worked summers for a municipality and there were a couple of chronic drinkers that had several DUI's and I don't recall either of them ever having their license suspended for more than 3 months. It was pretty normal to drink and drive then. Even late 80's it was pretty standard for myself and friends to get wasted on weekends and all drive home.

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My parents used to have cocktail parties in the 70s and 80s. Someone left a Black Russian on the floor - our dog Rusty drank it - he ran around the house wildly for one hour then fell asleep.
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My parents used to have cocktail parties in the 70s and 80s. Someone left a Black Russian on the floor - our dog Rusty drank it - he ran around the house wildly for one hour then fell asleep.
At least he didn't try to drive.
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I'm surprised at how many people drink alone. There used to be a powerful stigma attached to it.
Something I've noticed is there does seem to be a gap between millenials and Gen Z in this department. Most of my fellow millenial friends and I are pretty heavy drinkers. I generally don't drink alone and I only drink when I don't have to work the next day (despite my drunk posting history on here stating otherwise), but many of my friends are the 6-pack/night types.

Contrast that with my Gen Z friends and/or any Gen Z girls I've dated. There's a good portion of them who are completely put off by alcohol and drinking culture, and much prefer to smoke weed.
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I drank quite often before the virus, as I was on the road living out of hotels Mon to Thu and typically ended my day having drinks at the hotel bar with colleagues before sharing wine at dinner. At the start of the pandemic back from around March to June, I was having wine at home with dinner (I live alone), but wasn't really feeling it without the bustling noises of a lounge or restaurant or people to drink with and rarely drink now alone.

Never liked weed as it makes me sleep instantly.
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Something I've noticed is there does seem to be a gap between millenials and Gen Z in this department. Most of my fellow millenial friends and I are pretty heavy drinkers. I generally don't drink alone and I only drink when I don't have to work the next day (despite my drunk posting history on here stating otherwise), but many of my friends are the 6-pack/night types.

Contrast that with my Gen Z friends and/or any Gen Z girls I've dated. There's a good portion of them who are completely put off by alcohol and drinking culture, and much prefer to smoke weed.
I've actually talked to some older guys in the same boat though. Like a golf trip with the guys used to involve a fair amount of drinking and waking up hungover trying to play a round. Now it's about drugs though due in part to that lack of a hangover. These guys are in their 60's, so not part of the demographic that you're talking about!
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Even before the pandemic I drank fairly heavily. When you play gigs in bands there is usually free booze involved, so 15 years of that until the pandemic hit.

Right before the pandemic hit I invested several thousand dollars into some new recording equipment with the idea of having a bit of a side hustle. Well, seeing as we're not allowed to gather, especially in close quarters like recording requires, all this fresh new gear has been sitting around for months collecting dust. Its super depressing. Thus I can't remember the last time there hasn't been booze in the house. Weed, too.
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Something I've noticed is there does seem to be a gap between millenials and Gen Z in this department. Most of my fellow millenial friends and I are pretty heavy drinkers. I generally don't drink alone and I only drink when I don't have to work the next day (despite my drunk posting history on here stating otherwise), but many of my friends are the 6-pack/night types.

Contrast that with my Gen Z friends and/or any Gen Z girls I've dated. There's a good portion of them who are completely put off by alcohol and drinking culture, and much prefer to smoke weed.
It’s looking like we are seeing a sea change in attitudes and behaviours around drinking. In 15 years in my industry I’ve seen work social events go from interns leading the pack and carrying the party on after hours, to interns being the first to drift back to their desks and then head home.

The longterm generational trend seems to be drinking with others > drinking alone (while maybe virtually connected to others) > not drinking.
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Something I've noticed is there does seem to be a gap between millenials and Gen Z in this department. Most of my fellow millenial friends and I are pretty heavy drinkers. I generally don't drink alone and I only drink when I don't have to work the next day (despite my drunk posting history on here stating otherwise), but many of my friends are the 6-pack/night types.

Contrast that with my Gen Z friends and/or any Gen Z girls I've dated. There's a good portion of them who are completely put off by alcohol and drinking culture, and much prefer to smoke weed.
My 19 year old son and his friends don't drink much at all, but do experiment with weed and psychedelics. For a time, my son was drinking gin and tonics, but I told him that's what his grandmother used to drink.
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My 19 year old son and his friends don't drink much at all, but do experiment with weed and psychedelics. For a time, my son was drinking gin and tonics, but I told him that's what his grandmother used to drink.


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My 19 year old son and his friends don't drink much at all, but do experiment with weed and psychedelics. For a time, my son was drinking gin and tonics, but I told him that's what his grandmother used to drink.
Ya, he should be downing gin and sodas with a twist of lime. No sugar, so the nasty hangover is not there, and you get to taste the gin.
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I don't think I've ever had gin.
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My 19 year old son and his friends don't drink much at all, but do experiment with weed and psychedelics. For a time, my son was drinking gin and tonics, but I told him that's what his grandmother used to drink.
I used to think I liked gin & tonics then I realized I just liked tonic water.
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The longterm generational trend seems to be drinking with others > drinking alone (while maybe virtually connected to others) > not drinking.
This one isn't really correct. Most of my friends and I still drink together. A few of them just also drink alone.
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I don't think I've ever had gin.
I did a gin mixing class when we were in Glasgow and it opened my eyes a little. We were able to take some samples of each different flavor and make a blend of our own that we then scaled up to a full bottle to take home. My wife's mix consisted of coriander seed, milk thistle, lovage, elderflower, dillweed, parsley, strawberry, rosemary and lemon peel. I went with coriander seed, angelica root, liquorice root, black cardamom, black pepper, kaffir lime leaf, sumac, and cassia bark. It was fascinating to do.

For those who are unclear, gin is basically vodka infused with any number of botanicals/spices etc. What's fascinating is that you can have vastly different flavors in gin that create a bouquet for the nose and then something unique on the palate. It's not as pronounced as scotch, but if you develop a nose for it, gin can be just as interesting and unique a spirit.

That being said, if you don't like juniper or the vague piney taste, just don't bother with it.
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