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Old 12-11-2020, 07:59 PM   #7421
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I think the reality is the election would have had to have been a much, much closer for that to come into play.
or perhaps filing briefs written in ink rather than crayon
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Old 12-11-2020, 09:11 PM   #7424
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Old 12-11-2020, 09:25 PM   #7425
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Trump on twitter trying to take credit for the vaccine. God he's such a smarmy prick.
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Old 12-12-2020, 12:17 AM   #7426
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But seriously, the Texas GOP chair is literally engaging in sedition.

Ironically the more brazen and illegal his actions the better his likelihood of escaping any punishment.

All about that sweet sweet Pardon from Trump.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:45 AM   #7427
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Aka please keep sending me money. Pretty please.

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"We defended a selfish clown for nothing."



It sure would have been nice if people had been telling them that since, y'know, the 2016 Republican presidential primaries.
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Old 12-12-2020, 01:54 PM   #7429
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Lol, MAGA morons calling for violence again?

I'm guessing these militia clowns would instantly turn tail and run away screaming at the first sight of a squad of trained U.S. soldiers walking towards them. Good luck with your attempted insurrection, idiots.


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Old 12-12-2020, 03:07 PM   #7432
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Trump loses another one.

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While the U.S. Supreme Court has twice refused to hear pro-Trump challenges to the 2020 elections, a federal judge in Wisconsin on Saturday joined the chorus of rulings against Trump in his effort to use the courts to invalidate Biden’s victory.

“This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits,” wrote U.S. District Court Judge Brett H. Ludwig, a Trump appointee. Ludwig noted that the president had asked “that the Rule of Law be followed,” and he declared in response: “It has been.”
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Ludwig’s 23-page opinion gave wide latitude to Trump -- finding that the president had standing to file his election challenge and was not too late to raise his concerns about the way the election was conducted. But the outcome of the case was the same as rulings in other battleground states -- that Biden’s victory was attained legally and should not be thrown to a legislature to upend.

The president, Ludwig wrote, “has not proved” that state election officials violated his rights. “To the contrary, the record shows Wisconsin’s Presidential Electors are being determined in the very manner directed by the Legislature, as required by Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.”

Ludwig further noted that if he followed the demands set out in Trump’s lawsuit, “any disappointed loser in a Presidential election, able to hire a team of clever lawyers, could flag claimed deviations from the election rules and cast doubt on the election results. This would risk turning every Presidential election into a federal court lawsuit over the Electors Clause.”
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:19 PM   #7433
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I just want someone who truly believes that Biden is stealing the election, to explain in detail, why they believe that.
Does evidence actually exist that someone could point to?
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:26 PM   #7434
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I just want someone who truly believes that Biden is stealing the election, to explain in detail, why they believe that.
Does evidence actually exist that someone could point to?
Did you listen to nothing Melissa Carone said?!

And she signed an AfterDavid that says she could go to jail if she’s lying. Did you...?
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:37 PM   #7435
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I just want someone who truly believes that Biden is stealing the election, to explain in detail, why they believe that.
Does evidence actually exist that someone could point to?
What they really seem to be arguing is that changes to election rules in some states allowed a higher voter turnout that benefited the Democrats more than Republicans.

They can't seem to explain why enfranchisement is bad, except that their group didn't see the same benefits as the other group.

That seems to be what the lawsuits are about. While they are crying fraud publicly, the lawsuits themselves are not claiming fraud. They are just claiming that enfranchisement, which is intrinsically neutral, created results that weren't neutral.

I had a conversation with my 5 year old about this just this week about the difference between "fair" and "equal". I think it was easier to explain to a 5 year old than it is to Trump supporters. The application of the election rule changes was fair, to both sides, but that doesn't mean the results are, or should be equal.

The way the Republicans see it, the election rules as they were, gave everyone equal barriers. It didn't matter if some of those barriers were more inhibitive to some people than they were to others. It was equal, but not necessarily fair. Pretty much sums up Republicans in a nutshell. Find that playing field that benefits themselves by inhibiting their opponents, rather than winning on their own merits.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:48 PM   #7436
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I just want someone who truly believes that Biden is stealing the election, to explain in detail, why they believe that.
Does evidence actually exist that someone could point to?
There is a Georgia video showing the poll watchers leaving the counting room, then a suitcase being pulled out from under a table, and counting continuing.

I believe the explanation is that they weren’t counting ballots just setting them up to be counted, the suitcase is a normal ballot box and a miscommunication occurred telling the observers that ballot opening was done for the day or something like that. I don’t believe this was presented in court just to the Georgia legislature.

In Michigan there was one district that reported trump votes for Biden and house votes wrong due to software disagreements. This was caught as part of the election process. An audit that is currently sealed in Michigan around the machines will be released shortly.

There are a lot of 01/01/1900 birthdates in voter databases which leads people to believe the dead are voting. This is an artifact of how they long people in or something like that

In Pennsylvania there is the argument that the constitutional change required for the mail in voting legislation that was passed was never done so is unconstitutional and that the week after lection day for post marking ballots was not made by the legislature and therefore unconstitutional. (Republicans would likely win this one if it were a meaningful amount of votes)

Also there are thousands of affidavits of “irregularities” which are usually something I didn’t understand seemed wired or there was no way that many votes could have been for Biden.

So one can see that the worst outcome in a lot of these cases is that there is an opportunity for fraud to occur. But if you start to read newsmax it is presented as if it’s verified demonstration of fraud.
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Lol, MAGA morons calling for violence again?

I'm guessing these militia clowns would instantly turn tail and run away screaming at the first sight of a squad of trained U.S. soldiers walking towards them. Good luck with your attempted insurrection, idiots.

I read a couple of MAGA threads on Twitter with people telling Trump to give the order and they’ll hit the streets with their guns.

It was unnerving.
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The software needs a birth date for each record. 01/01/1900 is the default date given for people who didn’t have one in the system.
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I just want someone who truly believes that Biden is stealing the election, to explain in detail, why they believe that.
Does evidence actually exist that someone could point to?
Or what he could possibly do as president that is worth domestic bloodshed over.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:12 PM   #7440
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The easiest counter to the fraud argument is that if the Dems really wanted to do fraud, why wouldn't they give themselves the Senate too? Biden with a GOP Senate is basically years of DOA bills. Why only do half the fraud if there's the risk of getting caught?
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