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Old 12-06-2020, 06:18 PM   #7241
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It could be just for precautions, but Tooting Rudy has been hospitalized now as well.
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That's just the new conservative language these days. You see it on this board to describe almost anybody on the left.
Amazing isn't it? I have a friend who spouted this junk all the time, his wife had their first child two months ago, after I congratulated them I asked him if he donated $10,000 to the hospital for the cost of having a baby? with a stupid look on his face he said "what"? I said oh, you're a socialist after all!

Funny how quiet he's been since
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It could be just for precautions, but Tooting Rudy has been hospitalized now as well.
Speaking of which.

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Old 12-06-2020, 06:58 PM   #7246
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Can't wait till spring 2021 when the ####head MAGA movement is on the outside looking in, and quickly fizzling out of relevance.
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Old 12-06-2020, 07:23 PM   #7247
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Who knows, maybe one branch of them are right.

How do we know. How do you know?

I don't believe in one specifically but I do think atheists, especially those emanating arrogance like yourself by looking down on people who believe in something, are also burying their heads in the sand in a way by writing off any possibility while there is so, so very little that we still know about the universe around us with our very limited human senses and are still uncovering by the day. Unless you're hiding a crystal ball and a time machine over there which I doubt you are.
I think we do have to consider plausibility.

I think as this point we understand enough about the universe to know that the earth doesn't predate the sun, the women didn't spring from the ribs of men, that substantial portions of the flood myths were taken from tales of earlier cultures, that stories about future kings floating down the river in baskets is older than writing. We know that substantial portions of the Jesus myth was constructed and modified to draw comparisons to current events of grander figures at the time they were formulated. We know that sun isn't the wheel of a burning chariot, at this point we can be confident enough about mind/body monism to dismiss the idea of reincarnation or an after life.

I think there can be a great deal of confidence that no religion has proposed a plausible solution to that which they claim to explain, and the majority of claims religions have made can be directly disproven.

Atheism on the other would be incredibly easy to disprove if wrong, and nearly impossible to prove if right, but I have yet to see and argument against it that does not start with a big presupposition. I have seldom met an atheist who would be unhappy to modify their beliefs in the face of direct evidence.
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I think we do have to consider plausibility.

I think as this point we understand enough about the universe to know that the earth doesn't predate the sun, the women didn't spring from the ribs of men, that substantial portions of the flood myths were taken from tales of earlier cultures, that stories about future kings floating down the river in baskets is older than writing. We know that substantial portions of the Jesus myth was constructed and modified to draw comparisons to current events of grander figures at the time they were formulated. We know that sun isn't the wheel of a burning chariot, at this point we can be confident enough about mind/body monism to dismiss the idea of reincarnation or an after life.

I think there can be a great deal of confidence that no religion has proposed a plausible solution to that which they claim to explain, and the majority of claims religions have made can be directly disproven.

Atheism on the other would be incredibly easy to disprove if wrong, and nearly impossible to prove if right, but I have yet to see and argument against it that does not start with a big presupposition. I have seldom met an atheist who would be unhappy to modify their beliefs in the face of direct evidence.
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Trump ratchets up pace of executions before Biden inaugural

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CHICAGO -- As Donald Trump's presidency winds down, his administration is ratcheting up the pace of federal executions despite a surge of coronavirus cases in prisons, announcing plans for five starting Thursday and concluding just days before the Jan. 20 inauguration of U.S. president-elect Joe Biden.

If the five go off as planned, it will make 13 executions since July when the Republican administration resumed putting inmates to death after a 17-year hiatus and will cement Trump's legacy as the most prolific execution president in over 130 years. He'll leave office having executed about a quarter of all federal death-row prisoners, despite waning support for capital punishment among both Democrats and Republicans.
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I think we do have to consider plausibility.

I think as this point we understand enough about the universe to know that the earth doesn't predate the sun, the women didn't spring from the ribs of men, that substantial portions of the flood myths were taken from tales of earlier cultures, that stories about future kings floating down the river in baskets is older than writing. We know that substantial portions of the Jesus myth was constructed and modified to draw comparisons to current events of grander figures at the time they were formulated. We know that sun isn't the wheel of a burning chariot, at this point we can be confident enough about mind/body monism to dismiss the idea of reincarnation or an after life.

I think there can be a great deal of confidence that no religion has proposed a plausible solution to that which they claim to explain, and the majority of claims religions have made can be directly disproven.

Atheism on the other would be incredibly easy to disprove if wrong, and nearly impossible to prove if right, but I have yet to see and argument against it that does not start with a big presupposition. I have seldom met an atheist who would be unhappy to modify their beliefs in the face of direct evidence.
A major problem with organized religion is that there is a very shallow understanding of the origin of their own religious texts. At the time in which almost all of these texts were written, the primary mode of relaying doctrine from generation was through allegory or fable.

Whether Jesus walked the earth as advertised really isn't the question. Any of the lessons that were meant to be passed on were done so as an easily understood and remembered story, containing the message intended to be conveyed, and not a litany of recorded actions. Mohammed it was the same, the Koran is very poetic, but written in such a way to be easily digestible by an illiterate culture. Those two groups cover the bulk of the worlds religions.

Also the bulk of the worlds religions read every word in a religious text as indisputable fact. This is encouraged by the bureaucracy of these religious to gain money and power for themselves. The lack of understanding by a large percentage of religious people doesn't discount the existence of a deity.

(Not really trying to go for the worlds greatest derail, but identifying a group by it's craziest members it not a good way of categorizing a pretty important and conscientious subject. I guess that fits into the US election thread, as something similar is happening between the left and the right spectrums)

(I'm not going to continue to write about this in this thread, if you want to respond that's fine, but I won't answer. I'm also not a theologian, so there are many more qualified people to take this on in a different thread. If anyone is interested, I am not a religious person at all, but believe that science requires a complete lack of preconception, so fully discounting the existence of something based on a lack of evidence just seems sloppy.)
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The deplorables in Michigan are at it again.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-t...-home-saturday

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Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says "dozens" of armed protesters descended on her home Saturday night, using megaphones to disrupt what had been a quiet evening with her young son. It was meant to intimidate her, Benson said — adding that it didn't work.

The crowd was made up of people angry over President Trump's election loss. They shouted and chanted slogans outside Benson's house in a Detroit neighborhood, echoing conspiracy theories about the Nov. 3 voting process.
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This makes my blood boil. It's one thing to threaten an adult, but imagine the fear that her child was experiencing during this.
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The deplorables in Michigan are at it again.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-t...-home-saturday
So many disgusting human beings down there.

One of the idiots with the intimidation mob:
"We will not stand down, we will not stop, we will continue to rise up, we will continue to take this election back for the president that actually won it by a landslide," she said. "This is not over. It is far from over – in fact, it's just beginning."

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So many disgusting human beings down there.

One of the idiots with the intimidation mob:
"We will not stand down, we will not stop, we will continue to rise up, we will continue to take this election back for the president that actually won it by a landslide," she said. "This is not over. It is far from over – in fact, it's just beginning."

“Far from over?” That’s the part that scares me.
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Just bizarre... I understand greedily trying to poop in every toilet in the White House before your term ends... or taking as many trips on Air Force One, etc. But greedily trying to execute as many human beings as possible before being thrown out of the White House is disgusting.
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Just bizarre... I understand greedily trying to poop in every toilet in the White House before your term ends... or taking as many trips on Air Force One, etc. But greedily trying to execute as many human beings as possible before being thrown out of the White House is disgusting.
I wonder what the motivation is behind this. Trump is a lot of things, but he's kind of a wus when it comes to things like firing people in person or being responsible for sending soldiers to war. There must be someone else behind it, because it doesn't really seem his kind of thing.
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Sick burn, Gord.

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