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Old 11-25-2020, 06:19 AM   #6901
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^^^ Who cares? Andrew Yang was a blip. He wasn't even winning with Asian voters. There is only so much airtime available and you can't give space to everyone. Yang was a bad candidate and has been a worse surrogate.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:13 AM   #6902
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Biden’s campaign was clearly do nothing controversial and let Covid win the election for him. Yang being on air talking up the largest social program ever and how it would help during Covid was not part of that plan. Seems reasonable to avoid giving him a platform during the campaign.

If it was during the primaries or now it would be an issue
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IIRC he appeared many times on MSNBC, after he boycotted them.

https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/ra...17-msna1293021

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Back now when the news is still white hot, back now and still in this thing, it`s my pleasure to say, is 2020 presidential candidate Andrew Yang.

Mr. Yang, thank you so much for coming back. It`s really good to have you here.

ANDREW YANG (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Oh, thanks for having me back.

MADDOW: Sure, absolutely.

The last time we spoke, it was the day that Pelosi announced the impeachment inquiry. And I do feel like these 23 days have been 23 years.
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-yang...trumps-1479443

Ariana also tweeted this was limited to The Last Word.

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Old 11-25-2020, 07:51 AM   #6904
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God, is there going to be whole bunch of "Yang-Bro's" now?
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:35 AM   #6905
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I assume so. The Dems are confident enough that the pumpkin is accepting defeat (without a statement of concession) that it’s probably about time to find a way to turn on themselves
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:41 AM   #6906
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God, is there going to be whole bunch of "Yang-Bro's" now?
P sure the "Yang Gang" has been around for a while.
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:50 AM   #6907
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I wish a few more networks were more judicial about how they spend their airtime. Fringe candidates and insane lackies may be fun to watch time to time, but they don't add much to the discourse. I wish CNN had that policy when it came to the Trump presidency. It was only after the election they started to actively cut away when the lies were flowing. Wish they'd started in 2017.

Re: Yang - I'm still waiting to hear his plan for how when he gives everyone $1000, the rent doesn't just immediately go up by $1000. If anyone knows, do tell.
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Biden’s campaign was clearly do nothing controversial and let Covid win the election for him. Yang being on air talking up the largest social program ever and how it would help during Covid was not part of that plan. Seems reasonable to avoid giving him a platform during the campaign.

If it was during the primaries or now it would be an issue
It was during the primaries - that's what they're talking about. It does matter, because these sorts of editorial decisions significantly impact the outcome of the race. Not that Yang was going to win anyway, but he did do a good job of improving the standing of UBI, which went from a fringe policy to something that most people support.



After the primaries he was employed by CNN, so of course he wasn't going to appear on MSNBC then.
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Probably not. It would be hard to find a bigger cheerleader for the Biden administration than Yang is. This isn't like 2016, when Bernie's support for Hillary was lukewarm at best. Yang's been a loyal soldier throughout.
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Re: Yang - I'm still waiting to hear his plan for how when he gives everyone $1000, the rent doesn't just immediately go up by $1000. If anyone knows, do tell.
I think you're not trying particularly hard. Took me 30 seconds on google. He's answered this dozens of times.
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I think everyone knew Yang was being ignored by MSM, while Biden was backpacked/hard carried because he had the best chance to win.
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Re: Yang - I'm still waiting to hear his plan for how when he gives everyone $1000, the rent doesn't just immediately go up by $1000. If anyone knows, do tell.
$1000 isn’t much for most people but is the world for some. There will still be competition for that $1000, it won’t automatically be absorbed with higher prices in one or two buckets. For some, it will go to buying food or clothing. For others it will go to a new tv or iPhone. Others still may upgrade where they live. No two scenarios are exactly the same, and this is giving the power to the people to use the money as they think it is of best use for them at the time.
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This will be fun...

https://twitter.com/mobilesyrup/stat...660670976?s=21
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Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a whole new meaning for a “Gettysburg address”
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It's a start, but it won't be enough. The problem is the entire structure of the platform.

Honestly I hope Biden gets someone like Tristan Harris (or even just... hire him, why not) to put a team together to advise the White House on what its policy prescriptions should be to get a handle on these platforms. It might be one of the few areas where he doesn't get as much pushback from McConnell and company.
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I think you're not trying particularly hard. Took me 30 seconds on google. He's answered this dozens of times.
Yes except his answer is rubbish, its just wishful thinking
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I think you're not trying particularly hard. Took me 30 seconds on google. He's answered this dozens of times.
Thanks for posting that.

At 2:50 the first thing he says is "no sane landlord would jack up rent by $1000".

So I guess he's never rented in LA, Bos, Chi, or NY. He's just straight up wrong.

Ok, that's only a few tens of millions of people. Let's pretend that's true and carry on...

At 3:10 "The landlord would only stick it to you for 300-400 dollars". So Yang acknowledging that only 30%-40% would go straight to the landowner.

Can I just stop watching there?

3:24 "If that happened you would just do what anyone would do, go see what else is out there"

Oh, ok. I'm someone living paycheck to paycheck, but I can just move. Miss work, pay for movers, pack up everything, pull my kid out of school and move.

Except that EVERY landlord is going to do the same thing.

4:30 - He acknowledges that every landlord might do the same thing. Ok, get together with 2-3 families, and pool your money ($3000?) and buy a fixer uper and live in it together.

Seriously, WTF?

Isn't this him admitting that no, it totally won't work for renters?
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Yes except his answer is rubbish, its just wishful thinking
Sure, whatever you say. Not like there are studies to back him up... https://www.jainfamilyinstitute.org/...d_the_City.pdf

... Ultimately though, I actually think you're partly right. While the studies, pilot programs and expert opinion all suggest that it won't result in a sudden spike in rent, there's really no way to know. Everything about UBI, implemented society-wide in a country of 300 million people, is pretty much wishful thinking. There's no way to accurately predict exactly how markets will respond, or whether the health care benefits will be as good as advertised, or whether the expected economic stimulus will work the way proponents hope it will, or whether people will actually become more geographically and economically mobile. It's a best guess.

But given that the best guess is, "lots of stuff we want to happen will happen, and the bad stuff that seems like it could happen doesn't actually tend to show up when we look into things more closely or do actual real-world testing", maybe it's more reasonable to support the measure than to allow those hypothetical problems for which there's no actual support in practice to act as obstacles.
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I mean nothing is really going to work until there's a concerted effort by more jurisdictions to implement some form of rent control.
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Which mostly requires local measures to be implemented.

I'm not saying the concern isn't a real one that would require some additional creative thinking to minimize, it's just not "oh, this will just happen, so we can dismiss the whole concept out of hand." The goal is to get that bump in rent that could reasonably result minimized such that the overwhelming benefit of the UBI remains in the hands of the recipient.
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I like that he then goes on about how much he likes micro houses, and once visited a house made out of a cargo container.

Good for you Yang.
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