11-24-2020, 10:43 AM
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#1601
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Finally spent some time with my new 85X900H and all the rest of my new toys (Denon AVR-S750, PS5, Xbox Series X). The TV is amazing. Coming from a 1080P Sharp (which was great) and going to a 4K HDR is...incredible. Everything out of the box with the TV is fantastic.
One thing of note is that the footprint is massive. We have a 60" wide stand and had to buy a table top from Ikea to put on top because the width with legs is 60 1/8". And the width of the legs themselves are around 17". If you do decide to go with this model just make sure to measure before hand.
Set up is as follows:
HDMI 1: empty
HDMI 2: PS5
HDMI 3: Receiver (arc)
HDMI 4: Xbox Series X
I haven't added the new HDMI 2.1 firmware because the menu says I'm update to date so it might be a manual install. Wanting to try this whole 120Hz thing out.
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11-24-2020, 10:51 AM
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#1602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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I'm probably reading this wrong but you're plugging all those devices into your TV?
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11-24-2020, 11:18 AM
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#1603
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
I'm probably reading this wrong but you're plugging all those devices into your TV?
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You've read correctly. Yeah! The only thing that I'm plugging into the receiver is the AppleTV. The reason for this is because I still wanted the lossless audio decoding capabilities that the receiver has. So thought is that all fancy equipment plugs directly into the TV so I get 4K/120Hz capabilities. Audio gets passed to the receiver from the TV via Arc/EArc.
In a year or two once HDMI 2.1 is more adopted with receivers I'll upgrade so I have more 2.1 inputs. Right now the TV just has two - one is dedicated for the arc/earc channel and the other is available for some other hardware.
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11-24-2020, 12:12 PM
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#1604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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I'm guessing your receiver doesn't support 4K/120Hz?
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11-24-2020, 12:51 PM
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#1605
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meelapo
You've read correctly. Yeah! The only thing that I'm plugging into the receiver is the AppleTV. The reason for this is because I still wanted the lossless audio decoding capabilities that the receiver has. So thought is that all fancy equipment plugs directly into the TV so I get 4K/120Hz capabilities. Audio gets passed to the receiver from the TV via Arc/EArc.
In a year or two once HDMI 2.1 is more adopted with receivers I'll upgrade so I have more 2.1 inputs. Right now the TV just has two - one is dedicated for the arc/earc channel and the other is available for some other hardware.
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Ah, e-arc, OK. I'm no expert but thought you were plugging into regular arc and pretty sure those aren't lossless, are they?
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11-24-2020, 03:27 PM
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#1606
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
Ah, e-arc, OK. I'm no expert but thought you were plugging into regular arc and pretty sure those aren't lossless, are they?
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No no, you're absolutely right. I think right now the audio is being passed over Arc compressed so the most I get is Dolby Digital+ (I think). Though, when I use the native apps on the TV the receiver shows Dolby Atmos so I don't know what's going on there (or maybe I'm mis-remembering).
So right now it's just normal Arc because I need a firmware update to enable eArc (plus 120Hz and the AppleTV app). I'm just trying to figure out which firmware to go with because it seems like lots of folks are having lots of issues with firmware upgrades (audio loss via Arc/eArc, TV stability, etc.). And I think some of the firmware can't be backed out of. Seems like not a good time to be updating.
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11-24-2020, 04:31 PM
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#1607
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
I'm guessing your receiver doesn't support 4K/120Hz?
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Correct. It seems like this year all receivers that support HDMI 2.1 are having issues or only have one port that is HDMI 2.1. I had a receiver from six or seven years ago so I just bought a newer refurbished one that supported 4K/60 and the modern audio codecs to tide me over till 2022 or when HDMI 2.1 gets sorted on receivers. Right now I only have one truly dedicated HDMI 2.1 port so I'll have to swtich between Xbox Series X and PS5 if I want to take advantage of the 2.1 features.
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11-24-2020, 04:35 PM
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#1608
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Franchise Player
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Man, the home theatre market is such a disaster. This can't be the best way.
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11-25-2020, 04:19 PM
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#1609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Man, the home theatre market is such a disaster. This can't be the best way.
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When it comes to sound, I couldn't agree more. Luckily, everything is basically HDMI now.
The amount I had to figure out just to get DTS 5.1 working the way I wanted on a soundbar was surprising.
That being said, I think it will be much easier when I finally get a true home theatre going. I want me that sweet sweet HD Master Audio goodness.
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11-25-2020, 04:27 PM
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#1610
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Franchise Player
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The problem is, you buy a setup, and everything works. Then you buy one new thing, and it doesn't work with the hundreds or thousands you just invested. Like, my receiver works perfectly fine. But it can't decode the new codecs, so now it's kinda garbage.
If you could buy an IO panel or something, and just upgrade that, it'd be better. Kinda like you used to have to buy an AC3 decoder, then route the decoded feed to the receiver.
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11-25-2020, 04:44 PM
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#1611
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Like, my receiver works perfectly fine. But it can't decode the new codecs, so now it's kinda garbage.
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Well that's kinds surprising. That should be something pushed out via updates, is that not a thing with receivers?
I guess that's why people say to spend money on the speakers and not so much on receivers as that's the part you're going to be updating most.
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11-26-2020, 07:36 AM
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#1613
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Meelapo
Yeah, my speakers haven't been replaced in a while. I don't know if you ever need to replace them? From what I understand Dolby Atmos uses speakers in a unique way but it doesn't require you to have new speakers. I think you may need additional speakers (e.g. the ceiling ones) but you can use what you have.
So I upgraded the firmware and enabled eArc. The Xbox Series X is passing Dolby Atmos to the receiver which is great! I assume that because the receiver is showing Dolby Atmos it's getting someone it needs to decode. I had to change the Xbox settings from "uncompressed 5.1" to bitstream and then select "Dolby Atmost" and I had to download the Dolby app.
I also tried Ori (the new one) at 4K/120Hz. Sure enough, I noticed a bit of the blurring knowing with 120Hz on the 900H. I ended up liking supersampled 6K @ 60Hz.
Really really happy with the 900H and for it's price-point it's really good. For those that are looking for a new TV you should check the model out. I think it's on sale during Black Friday.
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Ya, see, stuff like this is why it's a disaster.
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11-26-2020, 10:43 AM
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#1614
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meelapo
I don't know if you ever need to replace them? From what I understand Dolby Atmos uses speakers in a unique way but it doesn't require you to have new speakers. I think you may need additional speakers (e.g. the ceiling ones) but you can use what you have.
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Yes, you'd need to add up-firing speakers to your existing set up. Maybe ceiling ones like you mentioned, not sure.
You can also buy Atmos ready speakers as well.
Last edited by GoinAllTheWay; 11-26-2020 at 11:10 AM.
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11-28-2020, 11:13 AM
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#1615
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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I've been tasked with looking for a TV, 65-75" range and the primary use is probably going to be console gaming and then some casual movie watching.
Any suggestions? The last TV I got was a Vizio and I really like it but that's not an option anymore I guess. TCL then? Which series there would be good for gaming?
Or Hisense?
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...-2020/14878629
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11-28-2020, 09:41 PM
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#1616
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I've been tasked with looking for a TV, 65-75" range and the primary use is probably going to be console gaming and then some casual movie watching.
Any suggestions? The last TV I got was a Vizio and I really like it but that's not an option anymore I guess. TCL then? Which series there would be good for gaming?
Or Hisense?
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...-2020/14878629
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I have the 58" version of the one you linked to. It's a great TV but I've noticed a lot of backlight bleeding along the edges. But I think it's because the 58" version is not a full array local dimming TV. I think you'd be happy with the picture quality. Can't comment on gaming though.
Depending on your budget, I'd really look at the X900H model lineup from Sony. I have the 85" and I am amazed at the quality of the TV. You can get the 65" from Costco when it's in stock.
https://www.costco.ca/sony-75-in.-4k...100656770.html
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11-28-2020, 11:35 PM
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#1617
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I've been tasked with looking for a TV, 65-75" range and the primary use is probably going to be console gaming and then some casual movie watching.
Any suggestions? The last TV I got was a Vizio and I really like it but that's not an option anymore I guess. TCL then? Which series there would be good for gaming?
Or Hisense?
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...-2020/14878629
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I have that HiSense TV in the 65" size and I'm quite happy with it. PS5 games look and play fantastic on it, and having Android TV built-in is great. rtings.com gave it their best budget TV award
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/be...-on-the-market
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11-29-2020, 01:42 PM
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#1618
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Good enough! Presented the options to the wife and she leaned towards the 75" one so went and grabbed it.
I haven't even got it out of the box yet but jeez this thing is stupid big.
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12-26-2020, 05:50 PM
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#1619
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Franchise Player
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Been working in my basement (painting, built a room for my son, etc) and throughout the process discovered that my old receiver died. The wife mentioned a new tv and it was game on. So my new set-up is as follows:
. Samsung 65 inch QN65Q7DT tv
. Sony STR-DH790 receiver
. Sony Dolby atmos speakers
. Polk speaker setup with two sub-woofers
. Sony hdr/4K DVD player
. Apple 4K box
I was initially in-impressed with the set up, I then discovered some speaker wiring issues, and that fixed my disappointment. The only thing that would make me want to leave the house for a movie is the popcorn. The Dolby atmos seems to add a little extra pop to movies.
I am likely in for about $3k all told, and I am happy. so I can only imagine what some of these $20k systems must sound like.
Upstairs we have a $500 home theatre in a box and I revisited that set up and discovered some speaker issues as well and it sounds much better as well.
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