[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Sorry to answer a question with a question...but I will do so anyway. Why do you think it is relevant?

One side claims Donald Trump is for sure a racist. Fine.

Then they claim that the other side must also agree with the conclusion that he is a racist. This is the error in logic.

For people to communicate properly on issues, they must first acknowledge that is is possible to reach a different conclusion based on the same observations.

I'll give you an example:
Donald Trump says something about Mexicans. One half of the population may conclude that he is racist based on his discussion of Mexicans. The other half of the population concludes that he is not racist because Mexico is a country not a race. Both sides of this argument are hearing Trump say the same statement - literally the same video. And yet, they both reach different conclusions. Basically half and half. Is one side right and one side wrong? Perhaps. But it is incorrect to assume that all sides are reaching the same conclusion.

As we have seen, it is divisive to project your conclusion onto the other side, and then make claims about their values or their intect based on that projection.

BoLevi,

Yes or No question:

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

And under all that troll poop is a steaming miasma of arrogant grandeur that only the "woke" contrarians enjoy in their nasal cavities.

Kids in Kindergarten get asked harder questions and are able to answer with a simple Yes or No.

The claim against Trump voters here is that they are either racist, or are willing to tolerate racism in others (or that they are stupid as well, I suppose).

My comment was simply that Trump voters just simply might not believe that he is racist so don't perceive themselves as EITHER racist or racist-tolerant.

I was then asked if I thought Trump was a racist. The question simply had no bearing on the point I was making, and I pointed that out.

The reason I'm making any of these points at all is because the inclination to vilify someone else simply because they have reached a different conclusion than you is the reason that the world is so fractured at the moment. The problem exists on both sides of the aisle. People prefer to have affirmation of their conclusions rather than have someone point out that half of the population disagrees with them- which hurts their brains. It's easy to see why people congregate in their groups and surround themselves by their respective echo chambers. And then they shoot the messenger who reminds them that there is no consensus on their particular flavor of worldview.

[afc wimbledon]

you could just answer the question, you seem evasive

[Dion]

Good luck getting an answer.

[Yamer]

Yeah, lesson learned.

[iggy_oi]

UnBoLevible

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Maybe because of this? (I’m still not convinced it’s not a parody)

Well that's a soviet-level poster/ad if I ever saw one.

[Dion]

[Ozy_Flame]

Known side effects of inhaling your own foul troll gas include inability to pronounce and write words that include "Yes" or "No". While temporary in effect, continuous exposure will result in a slow and nuanced decay in comprehension skills, including an inability to communicate basic linguistic expressions of the affirmative (or negative, should the sufferer choose to believe so).

If side effects continue, consider removing political spin as a potential remedy to anemic answers.

[Yamer]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1326301274120318978

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

BoLevi,

Yes or No question:

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?

I find the discussion about the topic more interesting than the discussion about my conclusion on the issue.

How would you respond if I said yes?

How would you respond if I said no?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Progressives so tolerant of the opinions of others! Unity! INtellecltula! hereuha! How boring.

Gesundheit

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I find the discussion about the topic more interesting than the discussion about my conclusion on the issue.

How would you respond if I said yes?

How would you respond if I said no?

BoLevi,

Yes or No question:

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I fInD tHe DiScUsSiOn AbOuT tHe ToPiC mOrE iNtErEsTiNg ThAn ThE dIsCuSsIoN aBoUt My CoNcLuSiOn On ThE iSsUe.

HoW wOuLd YoU rEsPoNd If I sAiD yEs?

HoW wOuLd YoU rEsPoNd If I sAiD nO?

I think your parents attached the diaper to the wrong end.

[photon]

I just noticed that bloviate is an anagram of At BoLevi

Of course photon is one of pooⁿᵗʰ so there's probably no actual conclusion to be drawn, just made me smirk.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I find the discussion about the topic more interesting than the discussion about my conclusion on the issue.

How would you respond if I said yes?

How would you respond if I said no?

Sea lion gonna sea lion

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

you could just answer the question, you seem evasive

I am being evasive, for reasons I mention in my post just above.

Frankly, I find observing people piously taking sides on the issue to be fascinating - much more fascinating than discussing my own little single opinion on the matter.

[Senator Clay Davis]

From the people who brought you "A press conference supposed to have happened at a luxury hotel, but ended up being held at a landscaper, right beside a porn shop" comes...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1326280769195692037

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I am being evasive, for reasons I mention in my post just above.

Frankly, I find observing people piously taking sides on the issue to be fascinating - much more fascinating than discussing my own little single opinion on the matter.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I am being evasive, for reasons I mention in my post just above.



Frankly, I find observing people piously taking sides on the issue to be fascinating - much more fascinating than discussing my own little single opinion on the matter.

What gives you purpose in life?