[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This guy is basically Chris Cooper's character from the Muppets

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325513157926932480

The first two paragraphs of his wikipedia page tells you everything you need to know about this disgusting piece of garbage:

He has been identified as preaching the prosperity gospel. As part of his evangelism, he calls for donations to his church, with the suggestion that parishioners will get a "hundredfold" return on their investment.[2] He has stirred controversy over his use of donations to finance mansions, private jets, an airport and other lavish purchases.[3][4]

During the pandemic of COVID-19 in 2020, Copeland once again gained national attention for his comments and actions in response to the outbreak. He repeatedly claimed that the pandemic had ended or would soon end, that he could cure his followers of the disease, and that followers should continue paying tithes if they lost their jobs in the economic crisis that the pandemic caused.[5] He later made false claims to have destroyed the virus and to have ended the still-ongoing pandemic.[5]

[getbak]

There is no lower form of life on this planet than the "Prosperity Gospel" preacher. Absolute scum.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

He's just another successful con man. It's not any surprise that someone like that would worship Trump. He's basically con man Buddha.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

I'm happier, more excited for Biden than any other President or even Prime Minister or Premier in my lifetime.

Why is that?

I think that every politican has faults, especially the high ranking ones.

Part of their job is to make difficult decisions where sometimes there is no right answer.

It means, they're the 'bad guy's by default, no matter what they do.

People here will hate on Trudeau, others will hate on Harper, just as some hate Clinton, others Bush Jr.

So whats sets Trump apart?

Honestly, I think that for all their flaws, our perception of politicians rightly or wrongly, they all have something in common. They all are doing what they think is best for their country/province/state/city/town.

I do believe George Bush Jr did what he though was best for the United States of America. Whether he was right or not isn't my point, it's that I believe Bush 43 did what he felt was best.

Same goes for Clinton, and Obama. Same goes for Trudeau, Harper, Martin, Chretien, etc.

I believe they were/are trying to make their country better.

Trump on the other hand. I don't believe he gives a tinker damn about the United States. I think he's all about short term, what benefits me NOW? His raision d'etre doesn't care if the country burns, so long as he gets praise and lives like a billionaire. Heck, he doesn't even really care if he's a billionaire so long as he gets to live like one and people think he's one.

I'm happy Trump lost not because I don't share the ultra-conservative philosophy, I'm happy because he wasn't trying to make the world a better place he was damaging it for himself.

I've been wrong on policy before. I've changed my mind. The thing is, my belief in making those around me better has never wavered, just the processes in how to do that. I can respect that. I understand you need to walk before you can run.

But Trump...

Trump was lighting things on fire because Flames are fun.

I'm overjoyed that Biden will President because we won't have a president actively trying to tear the country apart.

Trump wasn't an ultra-conservative, far from it.

He was an economic protectionist, he was an authoritarian that wanted to increase the power of the gov't, he spent like a drunken sailor running up huge deficits, undermined free markets, he raised tariffs (which is like raising taxes), he was anti-free-trade, he subsidized farmers, he was pro same sex marriage (which the Democrats weren't until about 10 years ago), I could go on. He's a populist and nationalist.

His conservative policies were derived from his populism and nationalism - so insofar as he was a conservative, he was a poor one. He certainly wasn't "ultra-conservative."

As for him being different than other politicians - this was more so in terms of his rudimentary communication abilities and his boorish style. Most politicians aren't that different from Trump, they just have the good sense to slap on a veneer of appealing personality.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by getbak

There is no lower form of life on this planet than the "Prosperity Gospel" preacher. Absolute scum.

Amen brother!
And for a small monthly symbol of you conviction, I’ll rid them from your thoughts.

[dino7c]

Biden and Harris went to church this morning...Trump skipped it to go golfing lol

Now I was watching football like every other Sunday but its hilarious that he has been going every week pretending to be a Christian and now that the gig is up he will never been seen in church again

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I could be viewing this wrong, but it looks to me like the Americans prefer to elect the true opposite of their previous president.

Clinton was the anti-Bush. He was charming and cool, but he’s also a philandering creep (at best)

W was the anti-Clinton. He wasn’t charming, he wasn’t cool, and he seemed like kind of an idiot (although W read 2 books a week during his second term). He couldn’t make money drilling for oil in Texas, he wasn’t great at running a baseball team, and he enjoyed the cocaine once upon a time. Started two wars (one reasonably justifiable) and let the banks run wild and tank the economy. Basically did such a poor job that the American electorate said “#### it, let the black guy try.”

Obama, thoughtful, eloquent, decent, a top-10 orator in the history of western civilization, is
the ultimate expression of America at its best.

Trump is the ultimate expression of America at its worst.

Where Trump is chaotic and immature, Biden is stable as a rock.

Say what you will about either of the last two presidents, you cannot deny that each man is the perfect foil to bring out the worst in the other party.

Joe Biden isn’t that. Joe Biden is a boring, uncontroversial white man man. If Donald Trump is a corrosive, sulphuric acid upon democracy, Joe Biden is some nice household bleach.

Just what the Donald ordered.

There is something to this, but I think you have oversimplified it a bit.

Clinton won because of two things: Bush reneging on his no new taxes pledge and Perot splitting some Republican votes. Clinton being young and hip (compared to Bush) helped, but Bush just seemed completely out of touch with everyday Americans in the middle of an economic slowdown.

Bush won partly due to Clinton fatigue. Too many scandals and what does the word is mean stuff. Plus, Gore was not overly likeable. I disagree with your view that W wasn’t charming. He is, in a frat boy type of way. Someone you would like to have over for a bbq, and people liked that over Gore.

As far as his intellect, I tend to think that he has some learning disabilities that made him seem stupid at times, but I don’t think that he truly is stupid.

I still maintain that Trump won because Hilary was such a toxic candidate for most of the voters and there was (and is still) a large segment that is just disgusted with both parties and the system and feels ignored and so the idea of tearing it all apart appeals to them. That and a bit of racism and sexism too.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This guy is basically Chris Cooper's character from the Muppets

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325513157926932480

My favorite part is that in the movie he doesn't laugh at all, he just reads the script action directions which are usually in parentheses or all caps. Clearly a conscious choice to throw a little joke to the adults watching with kids.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

It will be nice to (hopefully) have a more cordial relationship between Canada and the States again.
I know that both countries will still be looking out for their own interests first, but at least there probably won't be silly retaliatory tariffs back and forth.

I imagine Biden’s phone will be ringing off the hook with countries trying to get back to normal relationships and undoing the harm trump caused.

[Ozy_Flame]

Can honestly say I'm looking forward to Biden standing shoulder-to-shoulder with European leaders, and everyone is going to have smiles on their faces again in a sense of relief and closure.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Trump wasn't an ultra-conservative, far from it.

He was an economic protectionist, he was an authoritarian that wanted to increase the power of the gov't, he spent like a drunken sailor running up huge deficits, undermined free markets, he raised tariffs (which is like raising taxes), he was anti-free-trade, he subsidized farmers, he was pro same sex marriage (which the Democrats weren't until about 10 years ago), I could go on. He's a populist and nationalist.

His conservative policies were derived from his populism and nationalism - so insofar as he was a conservative, he was a poor one. He certainly wasn't "ultra-conservative."

As for him being different than other politicians - this was more so in terms of his rudimentary communication abilities and his boorish style. Most politicians aren't that different from Trump, they just have the good sense to slap on a veneer of appealing personality.

[dubc80]

Love this shirt. LOL.





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[getbak]

Ronald Reagan is currently the oldest man to ever hold the office of President of the USA, leaving office 17 days before his 78th birthday.

Election day, last Tuesday, was 17 days before Joe Biden's 78th birthday.


From the moment of his inauguration until he leaves office, Biden will be older than anyone to have held the office before him.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This guy is basically Chris Cooper's character from the Muppets

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325513157926932480

maniacal laugh.




maniacal laugh.




maniacal laugh

[activeStick]

Really, really happy for the Americans. It's going to be so predictable to watch the Republicans start turning their backs to Trump now that he's no longer of use to them and to imagine how Trump feels when these same people no longer kiss his feet. Can't emphasize enough how lucky I feel the Democrats are. Biden flipped 5 states on his way to defeating Trump, who will end up getting over 71M votes, despite Biden losing a large number of votes and Florida, thanks to a successful labeling of him as a socialist. I don't think Trump has the character to give a respectful concession speech that follows the norm of the WH, so I think there's a decent chance Pence gives it on Trump's behalf.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I don't think Trump has the character to give a respectful concession speech that follows the norm of the WH, so I think there's a decent chance Pence gives it on Trump's behalf.

I agree, there's no way he'll ever concede, and I doubt Pence will either since he's basically Trump's lapdog. My guess is they'll make Kayleigh McEnany do it in a written statement, while still calling the election illegitimate.

[Oil Stain]

Seems to me that the States has kind of the opposite problem of Canada. We in Alberta complain because the popular vote is overrepresented in National elections which means basically Ontario/Quebec get to make most of the decisions, and get catered to.

In the States it seems like they have a little too much power tied up in regions which lets the Republicans win consistently off the backs of rural voters.

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325492912122114050

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

This is, unfortunately, wishful thinking.

Outrage is the raw fuel that powers clicks, eyeballs, subscriptions, viewers and advertising dollars. People paying attention to boring "news" is not going to create sufficient fuel - so expect to get a constant stream of storylines about something intended to create outrage.

If you have found yourself being outraged over the past while, it is probably because there has been a lot of effort put into making you feel that way.

Once you step aside and see most of the bombardment is actually just competing camps selling different flavors of outrage, you can be fascinated by the process rather than a product of it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This guy is basically Chris Cooper's character from the Muppets

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325513157926932480

#### is straight out of Austin powers, but somehow real life.