[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[bob-loblaw]

If Biden wins, will we even need a US Politics thread?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by devo22

I think both Nevada and Pennsylvania are much more likely than Arizona. From what it looks like, the outstanding votes in Arizona will lean more Republican, while it's the opposite in the other states.

Yup, the recent trends make PA more likely than AZ (both are likely). No idea on Nevada, but it is starting to look pretty likely. GA is a coin flip. In order of likelihood at this point, IMO:

PA
NV
AZ
GA

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

If Biden wins, will we even need a US Politics thread?

If Biden wins, we can actually have a US politics thread, instead of a "Hey listen to what the President said today, isn't that awful, let's all talk about what a bad person he is" thread.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

The worst part of this whole debacle has been observing some of my friends fall deeper and deeper down the rabbithole of Qanon, I literally don't have enough time in the day anymore to correct/debunk all the tripe they've been posting, and you'd think being objectively wrong so often might give them pause for reflection but it just seems to give them a bigger chip on their shoulder, maybe that's my fault, but I'm not sure I really ####ing care

It's a self sealing conspiracy, every time something is wrong it's because the elites screwed over Q or whatever.

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Since my last posts around 10:30 AM:

Pennsylvania
The most recent Pennsylvania batches of 20,000 resulted in a net of 7,500 for Biden (68%). Trump's lead decreased to 109,000 with an estimated 560,000 to go.

Georgia
The most recent Georgia batches of 2,400 resulted in a net of 1,200 for Biden (76%). Trump's lead decreased to 12,800 with 47,000 to go.

[bob-loblaw]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324418113086083072

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324424548863848449

[united]

12:30 PM update.

Georgia
410,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 63% of them.
358,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 62% of them.
308,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 60% of them.
256,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 59% of them.
61,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 66% of them.

47,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 64% of them.
*@AmyEGardner

North Carolina (Unchanged)
287,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 64% of them.
*NYT estimate

Pennsylvania
1,870,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 69% of them.
1,500,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 68% of them.
1,440,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 66% of them.
1,200,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 65% of them.
1,075,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 63% of them.
850,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 62% of them.
630,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 61% of them.

560,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 60% of them.
*NYT estimate

Nevada
194,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 49% of them.

150,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 47% of them.
*NYT estimate

Arizona (Likely already won by Biden)
470,000* votes outstanding. Biden needs 43% of them.
*NYT estimate

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

When (not if) Biden wins this I'm taking a very, very, very long break from American politics.

"May you live in exciting times" has far too often been the defining refrain the last four years.

Looking forward to the opposite.

I like that idea in theory too, given how much of my gray matter the US political situation has occupied over the past 5 years.



But...


Even if Biden wins, Trump is still president until January 21. If you're like me, and you can't even imagine him giving a concession speech, you have to conclude that the days between now and then will remain just as fraught - if not moreso - than any period during the past 4 years.



So definitely take a break of a few days - but don't be too sad when something scandalous sucks you right back in again.

[GGG]

Do you think once he has lost he pardons himself and his family for all crimes that may or may not have been committed and then leaves without participating in the transition and Pence gets to clean up.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by GGG

Do you think once he has lost he pardons himself and his family for all crimes that may or may not have been committed and then leaves without participating in the transition and Pence gets to clean up.

The classic "Tantrum Exit". Seems plausible, though I doubt he would voluntarily give up the last few months worth of Presidential grafting/self-promotion opportunities.

I mean, we all know that "Trump News Network" is the inevitable next step here, right?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Minnie

If Biden wins this, the new American Politics discussion thread should be titled "American Politics Thread: Biden Time."

“Orange Man Sad”

[Senator Clay Davis]

"Orange You Glad He's Gone?!?!?"

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Makarov

The classic "Tantrum Exit". Seems plausible, though I doubt he would voluntarily give up the last few months worth of Presidential grafting/self-promotion opportunities.

I mean, we all know that "Trump News Network" is the inevitable next step here, right?

And in typical Trump fashion he’s not starting his own news network he will just license his name to Sinclair or OAN

[troutman]

Originally Posted by GGG

And in typical Trump fashion he’s not starting his own news network he will just license his name to Sinclair or OAN

Or CCCP1

[ComixZone]

Once Biden wins, I wonder what happens next.

By in large, Biden represents a resetting to a system that built a lot of injustices/inequality that people have been rioting/protesting against. That’s not to say returning to that system isn’t some sort of twisted course correction, but it truly is just a return to the way things were - which saw inequality sky rocket, education collapse, policing forces rise, generations of black families destroyed. The issues facing American life were not built in the last four years (and slightly less than 50% seem to believe things improved in the last 4 years).

...so is the view that now that they’re back to the devil they know, that they’ll be able to rebel against what they’re familiar with and enact actual change? They’ve (seemingly) removed what slightly more than 50% of the population believe to be an unreasonable level of chaos - so what comes next? No more excuses? Time for actual change?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

"Orange You Glad He's Gone?!?!?"

"Crimes with Orange"

[troutman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Once Biden wins, I wonder what happens next.

By in large, Biden represents a resetting to a system that built a lot of injustices/inequality that people have been rioting/protesting against. That’s not to say returning to that system isn’t some sort of twisted course correction, but it truly is just a return to the way things were - which saw inequality sky rocket, education collapse, policing forces rise, generations of black families destroyed. The issues facing American life were not built in the last four years (and slightly less than 50% seem to believe things improved in the last 4 years).

...so is the view that now that they’re back to the devil they know, that they’ll be able to rebel against what they’re familiar with and enact actual change? They’ve (seemingly) removed what slightly more than 50% of the population believe to be an unreasonable level of chaos - so what comes next? No more excuses? Time for actual change?

Mitch and The Senate will be the big bad now.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by nik-

"Crimes with Orange"

Orange Is The New Orange

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

When (not if) Biden wins this I'm taking a very, very, very long break from American politics.

"May you live in exciting times" has far too often been the defining refrain the last four years.

Looking forward to the opposite.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by devo22

I think both Nevada and Pennsylvania are much more likely than Arizona. From what it looks like, the outstanding votes in Arizona will lean more Republican, while it's the opposite in the other states.

Maybe not. The votes outstanding are coming from Maricopa, Pima, and Santa Cruz counties. Pima and Santa Cruz and Tucson and south of Tucson, which is traditionally very blue. Maricopa has gone blue and trended Biden. When I saw what the outstanding counties were I breathed a little easier because of the counties in question. Trump is still facing an uphill battle and it will require significant shenanigans to turn this into a win, if the data is not manipulated.