[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[troutman]

Trump's lawyers have not been very successful so far. I recall seeing an article last month suggesting his lawyers should be sanctioned if they are filing frivilous lawsuits.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Biden lead in Arizona is about half what it was when 80% had reported. I have no clue of the demographics of outstanding ballots. It should still be considered safely Biden?

it's a coin flip

as is Georgia

PA is probably the most likely of the 3 of them

[TheIronMaiden]

Thank science I am not from the USA. I will take our Canadian flawed democracy over whatever the hell has been happening the last three days.

[Barnet Flame]

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/05/far...eid=35f7f59046

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

They will show up in bags clearly marked "Totally Legit Missing Votes for Donald Trump".

Maybe the votes are hidden IN the camera equipment?

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324418393718534145

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nah he sent out e-mails over the last few days asking his supporters for money for the lawyers.

I find that absolutely hilarious. Y'all are out of jobs and in the middle of a pandemic....BUT GIMME MORE MONEY NOW! Yes even after the election I need more!

Might as well say no covid-relief funds until you pay more haha

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nah he sent out e-mails over the last few days asking his supporters for money for the lawyers.

Oh yeah, right. I actually forgot about that.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Looch City

I find that absolutely hilarious. Y'all are out of jobs and in the middle of a pandemic....BUT GIMME MORE MONEY NOW! Yes even after the election I need more!

Might as well say no covid-relief funds until you pay more haha

Democrats will gladly pay his moving expenses.

[opendoor]

So assuming 50.4K ballots uncounted in Georgia and a little over 1% of those going to Jorgenson, Biden would need 63% of the remaining Trump/Biden ballots to catch Trump. So far in today's counted ballots (just under 14K) he has gotten 68.5% of those. So definitely possible, though it's going to be tight no matter what.

[Acey]

Yet another Trump lawsuit rejected... going really well for them to be handed the election by the courts so far.

[flylock shox]

I would not be the least surprised if the measure of victory in GA ends up being in the hundreds rather than the thousands. Regardless, a recount there is inevitable. That will prolong things even further.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by New Era

People appreciated their messaging and how on point they were at showing the contradiction of conservatives voting for Trump. No one, and I mean NO ONE, was in support of their ideology. This was a case of the enemy of enemy is my friend, you know, like the Soviets were a friend to defeat the Nazis in WWII. As soon as the engagement is done we will go back to battling against the neocons and some of the twisted stuff they dream up. No one sold out to them, we just embraced their messaging because it was making Republicans look foolish.

Simple twitter search can show you that plenty of liberal voters gave money to the LP. They raised almost $42M. Who do you think the majority of that money came from.

I'm all for "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" in terms of strategy. Providing your enemy with the means to turn around and attack you afterwards is Regan/Bush doctrine ####.

What is funny about the whole thing is those never Trumpers provided more support and action in trying to defeat Trump than the Bernie Bros did in two elections. You might want to stew on that for a good long time, because your team did sweet #### all to help defeat the most dangerous man American politics has seen come along in generations, if not ever.

Who is my team? Also, Bernie has campaigned his ass off for Biden.

Originally Posted by Boreal

Why is it hilarious?

If I’m a liberal I want a competent respectful conservative with salient evidence that sharpens my point of view to get a better end result in my thinking, voting, policy & society.

If I’m conservative I want a better liberal point of view that does the same.

Anyone who wants to be challenged by incompetent weak opponents divorced from logic, facts, reason, & evidence is a childish pathetic loser in my opinion.

Except that's not who are what the neocons were/are. They pioneered post-truth discourse and the discrediting of experts, academics, and the media. They and their ilk are the biggest reason we are where we are. Let's not lift them up with revisionist history.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by opendoor

So assuming 50.4K ballots uncounted in Georgia and a little over 1% of those going to Jorgenson, Biden would need 63% of the remaining Trump/Biden ballots to catch Trump. So far in today's counted ballots (just under 14K) he has gotten 68.5% of those. So definitely possible, though it's going to be tight no matter what.

are there provisional ballots it’s Georgia or Military ballots or is that included in the current outstanding count? Provisional ballots are usually given when in some states they exchange their mail in ballot for an in person.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

I would not be the least surprised if the measure of victory in GA ends up being in the hundreds rather than the thousands. Regardless, a recount there is inevitable. That will prolong things even further.

The only scenario where Georgia is the decisive state is the case of a 269-269 tie, right? Hopefully Biden wins PA and we can put this to bed, but even if he loses PA, GA, and NC, Biden is still president if AZ and NV end up in his column. Trump can afford to lose NV if he wins everything else, but Biden has many different paths to victory.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

The only scenario where Georgia is the decisive state is the case of a 269-269 tie, right? Hopefully Biden wins PA and we can put this to bed, but even if he loses PA, GA, and NC, Biden is still president if AZ and NV end up in his column. Trump can afford to lose NV if he wins everything else, but Biden has many different paths to victory.

The interesting part, though, is that several outlets - including but not limited to Fox News - have already called Arizona for Biden. They did that on Election Day and have not retracted the call, despite a lot of criticism from the Trump team.

If it becomes consensus that Nevada should be called for Biden, such that everyone calls it, the same way Michigan and Wisconsin went yesterday, the Fox News Decision Desk will probably do likewise. And unless they retract the AZ call at the same time, that would mean that they have to declare Joe Biden the winner of the election.

Obviously AP and Fox calling the election for Biden isn't definitive, but it's a significant step and you start casting Trump in the role of Gore 2000.

[Minnie]

If Biden wins this, the new American Politics discussion thread should be titled "American Politics Thread: Biden Time."

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Minnie

If Biden wins this, the new American Politics discussion thread should be titled "American Politics Discussion: Biden Time."

Biden Time until the Next Election

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Biden Time until the Next Election

2022 starts next week....

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The interesting part, though, is that several outlets - including but not limited to Fox News - have already called Arizona for Biden. They did that on Election Day and have not retracted the call, despite a lot of criticism from the Trump team.

If it becomes consensus that Nevada should be called for Biden, such that everyone calls it, the same way Michigan and Wisconsin went yesterday, the Fox News Decision Desk will probably do likewise. And unless they retract the AZ call at the same time, that would mean that they have to declare Joe Biden the winner of the election.

Obviously AP and Fox calling the election for Biden isn't definitive, but it's a significant step and you start casting Trump in the role of Gore 2000.

I assume they'll wait to see if PA is called tonight. If it goes Biden, then that let's everyone off the hook. If it goes Trump, then I imagine this election will stay un-called for a while.