American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by edslunch

What do you look for in a county clerk or tax collector?

A warm smile.

[Lanny_McDonald]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1317890385885204482

[KootenayFlamesFan]

AKA Trump wants to turn it into an hour long Hunter Biden bash-fest.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318272135291424769

[FlameOn]

So on top of the $421M in debt owed the Russians and other foreign entities, Trump has another $900M in loans to unknown creditors coming up in the next 4 years.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex...-hes-reelected

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by starseed

Last federal election I didn't have anyone in front of me when I walked in to vote in Toronto center.

Before that, it would have been less than 10 minutes maybe?

Waiting more than 30 minutes should be considered a failure to plan correctly.

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The early polls opened here for the Queensland state election. They'll be open for two weeks. If my postal vote doesn't show up I can walk down early and get it done since they're open till 9pm at the city location.

Voting is easy and accessible.

[direwolf]

Not surprising. The Hunter Biden thing is their last desperate Hail Mary before election day. I hope the election commission tells them to go f*** themselves.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

He's a con man. He's always been a con man. He's probably worthless.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Some people hate Trump but like his policies. Some people like Biden but hate his policies. So it's really a situation unique to each voter.

Maybe, but I think far more people pretend this to be the case when in reality, they hate Trump less than they hate ever voting for the Democrats. They know what a moron Trump is, but they'd still vote for him instead of ever voting the Democrats, and use the "I like Trump's policy" as some sort of justification.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The funniest thing about the Hunter Biden Hail Mary is they think it's going to work. We've had a full round of polling post-NY Post "story" and the numbers remain unchanged. Just skip forward to the cheating portion of the election, we're all bored at this point.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318267408344285189

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Maybe, but I think far more people pretend this to be the case when in reality, they hate Trump less than they hate ever voting for the Democrats. They know what a moron Trump is, but they'd still vote for him instead of ever voting the Democrats, and use the "I like Trump's policy" as some sort of justification.

Sure, that's no different than Bernie supporters voting for Hillary and now Biden. Just reverse all the words.

[FurnaceFace]

I'm glad Cali voted in person. I think more Dems should vote in person instead of mail-in as mail-in is under so much attack. I think the Dems should have gotten that message out (and maybe they did and I just haven't seen it from up here) for them to have a decisive no question win they need to win out on votes cast vs votes cast plus mail in.

Having said that I saw a bit of John Bolton on CNN and they asked him if he was worried about the succession of power if it happens. He said something like Trump might not go quietly but from his conversations with those in the party they will stand behind the vote and ensure he leaves. As more of an aside his interview was pretty interesting. They asked him who he was voting for and he said he wasn't voting for Trump, but also not voting for Biden and he doesn't agree with the Dems. He followed that by saying something like he stands for conservative values and doesn't believe Trump is a conservative or a Republican which is a fundamental reason (beyond Trump being an idiot and a dick to him) that he can't vote for him. They didn't follow up and ask him who he will vote for but I guess there isn't much option. He also said he would be voting Republican for Senate as he wants to ensure the Dems don't get control of all three sides.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

AKA Trump wants to turn it into an hour long Hunter Biden bash-fest.

Oh, now they care about "tradition in past campaigns."

[troutman]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Maybe, but I think far more people pretend this to be the case when in reality, they hate Trump less than they hate ever voting for the Democrats. They know what a moron Trump is, but they'd still vote for him instead of ever voting the Democrats, and use the "I like Trump's policy" as some sort of justification.

The very definition of negative partisanship.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

I'm glad Cali voted in person. I think more Dems should vote in person instead of mail-in as mail-in is under so much attack. I think the Dems should have gotten that message out (and maybe they did and I just haven't seen it from up here) for them to have a decisive no question win they need to win out on votes cast vs votes cast plus mail in.

Mail in ballots are just fine. If people are concerned about the mail, take your ballot and drop it off at your Recorder's Office or an identified drop box for ballots. Check with your County Recorder and your State to determine how votes are received, registered, and counted. For example, in Arizona, your mail in vote is counted when it is received starting two weeks prior to the election. It all depends on your state.

The in person vote is no guarantee that things age going to be on the up and up as well. I have a contact in Georgia who voted in person this past weekend and they ran into technical difficulties in getting their vote registered. Those technical difficulties were the individual's vote NOT registering for the candidate they selected and having it changed to the other candidate. This twice, on two different machines, and took a third machine to have their vote for Biden finally registered. There are going to be a lot of shenanigans happening out there, and a paper ballot is the best option to work with.

Having said that I saw a bit of John Bolton on CNN and they asked him if he was worried about the succession of power if it happens. He said something like Trump might not go quietly but from his conversations with those in the party they will stand behind the vote and ensure he leaves. As more of an aside his interview was pretty interesting. They asked him who he was voting for and he said he wasn't voting for Trump, but also not voting for Biden and he doesn't agree with the Dems.

Bolton disclosed on another show he submitted his mail in ballot and he wrote in Ronald Reagan. To repeat what I have stated numerous times, people like this are not part of the solution, they are the problem. You only have two choices, so make your vote count by selecting the best of the two options.

He followed that by saying something like he stands for conservative values and doesn't believe Trump is a conservative or a Republican which is a fundamental reason (beyond Trump being an idiot and a dick to him) that he can't vote for him. They didn't follow up and ask him who he will vote for but I guess there isn't much option. He also said he would be voting Republican for Senate as he wants to ensure the Dems don't get control of all three sides.

This is the bigger problem. The down ticket choices are just as enabling. When you vote to support the guys who have enabled Trump, you are voting for Trump. When you vote for the guys who provide support for evil to happen, you are voting for evil.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

AKA Trump wants to turn it into an hour long Hunter Biden bash-fest.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318272135291424769

“No.”

And if they don’t agree, don’t do the debate.

[burn_this_city]

Trump just planting the reason for bailing on the final debate.

[troutman]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318096135202930689

[troutman]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318276396083544065

[djsFlames]

Is it true that it could take weeks for the election results to come in, beyond election night?

You know Trump is going to take full advantage of that if the latent votes are largely dem votes right. If things start out in his favor simply because his votes came in faster he will attempt to declare a victory as early as possible. And mail in votes are fraudulent, blah blah.

This thing is setting up to be a ####show.

[Lanny_McDonald]

A really interesting a funny take on the mythical undecided voter in the time of Trump, and how pissed off the country is at them. Just some great lines in here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...36d_story.html

“To be undecided in 2020, to me, you literally would have to be on an ice floe,” says Tom Nichols, a national security professor and senior adviser for the Lincoln Project. “If you’re just coming back from an Antarctic research station, I would understand.”

"Tim Michaels, 50, a consultant in Portland, Ore., blames it on stubbornness — particularly among Bernie Sanders supporters who refuse to commit to Biden. “They’re trying to pretend as though they’re deliberative rather than idiots,” Michaels says."

"Eden Dranger is a 33-year-old television writer and Biden voter in Los Angeles. “I feel that undecided voters are out of touch with what is at stake,” she says. She recently tweeted: “If you ever feel stupid, just remember that there’s still undecided voters.”"

"“One of the problems in America is that we used to celebrate those who weigh all the issues, who weigh all the attributes, and make a careful and informed decision,” he says. Now, “we condemn them because they haven’t joined us in our declaration of who we support.”

Is that what the Undecideds have been doing? Carefully weighing the issues, all the way down to the wire? Greg Shugar, 47, of Boca Raton, Fla., says the undecided people he knows think of themselves as apolitical. They're not waiting on answers to policy questions. "If you are curious about what's going on," Shugar says, "you are not undecided.""

“It is like needing to go to the bathroom and your choices are the men’s bathroom or the women’s,” Jon says. “You can’t just stand there and go in your pants.”

Yes, undecideds have the whole country pissed off at them, and for good reason.