10-17-2020, 07:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I really don't see how those examples are altering the list. Maybe it is more the case that they are producing results you disagree with?
Also, there is no correct answer, it is simply a popularity contest. So does it really matter?
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It doesn't really matter, I even said as much. The way data is collected does influence what information can be obtained from it. I was just trying to think of different ways to collect the data.
Let me ask you this. Why do you think NHL award voting uses a ranked voting system as opposed to binary one?
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10-18-2020, 10:43 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It doesn't really matter, I even said as much. The way data is collected does influence what information can be obtained from it. I was just trying to think of different ways to collect the data.
Let me ask you this. Why do you think NHL award voting uses a ranked voting system as opposed to binary one?
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lol
Several possible reasons, including expeditiousness - they simply don't have time (or desire, from participants) for multiple rounds of voting.
And it's not like ranked voting isn't flawed. In fact I would argue that it is MORE flawed (see: Iginla, Jarome)
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10-18-2020, 02:16 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
lol
Several possible reasons, including expeditiousness - they simply don't have time (or desire, from participants) for multiple rounds of voting.
And it's not like ranked voting isn't flawed. In fact I would argue that it is MORE flawed (see: Iginla, Jarome)
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A binary vote doesn't mean multiple rounds under any circumstances. I have no idea where you got that from. It means everyone picks their winner and the plurality wins, no matter how small (just like a typical forum poll). It would be one round and done. Ranking the votes is a way of establishing a better consensus among a majority.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 10-18-2020 at 02:26 PM.
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10-18-2020, 02:37 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
A binary vote doesn't mean multiple rounds under any circumstances. I have no idea where you got that from. It means everyone picks their winner and the plurality wins, no matter how small (just like a typical forum poll). It would be one round and done. Ranking the votes is a way of establishing a better consensus among a majority.
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okay, well if your comparison was vs a single round vote, then yes, I fully agree that a ranking system is better.
however, I still don't see how it would improve this task
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10-18-2020, 06:41 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Alright, on a different note, are Dube and Kylington considered graduated now?
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 10-18-2020 at 06:43 PM.
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10-18-2020, 06:56 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Alright, on a different note, are Dube and Kylington considered graduated now?
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I'd say that anyone who is no longer eligible for the Calder Trophy should be considered graduated.
Kylington's ELC is expired and he is no longer waiver exempt, so I would definitely consider him graduated.
Technically, Dube is still on his ELC and could be sent down without waivers, but I'd still consider him graduated.
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10-18-2020, 06:58 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Alright, on a different note, are Dube and Kylington considered graduated now?
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I’d consider them both to be graduated. They both spent pretty much the entire season in the NHL last year.
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10-18-2020, 07:01 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Yeah, that is how I was leaning too. But of all the players in the organization, I think they both also have the most untapped potential.
It would be a huge disappointment if either one wasn't a full-time roster player next season. Dube, especially with the playoffs he had.
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10-18-2020, 08:47 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I don't think Chechelev will get a contract just yet. I have a feeling that they'll want him to keep up his stellar MHL play for this whole season.
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His contract is up after this season, right?
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10-18-2020, 08:54 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I was looking at Kinnvall the other day-dude was 8th in scoring in the Swedish League last year, second among defensemen with 40pts in 51g. 5th in the league in assists. He could be a steal of a signing, to say the least.
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10-18-2020, 11:29 PM
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#51
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
His contract is up after this season, right?
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I believe so. I don't think he has any KHL commitments either
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