2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What is your problem lol

We get it. You don't think the Flames will trade either guy. However, last time I checked, you aren't Treliving or anyone else from the front office. So in other words, you don't know anything for sure.

You don't need to post the same thing over and over again when people bring up potential trades in the speculation thread.

It isn’t the same thing over and over, he just decided to put his money where is mouth is.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What is your problem lol

We get it. You don't think the Flames will trade either guy. However, last time I checked, you aren't Treliving or anyone else from the front office. So in other words, you don't know anything for sure.

You don't need to post the same thing over and over again when people bring up potential trades in the speculation thread.

You don't need to follow my posts around like a teenage girl on Twitter reading what Bieber posted yet here we are again...

[Roof-Daddy]

Lol its FAR more likely that Gaudreau and/or Monahan don't get traded than they do. And thats even if Treliving is trying to trade them.

Really going out on a limb trying to make a bet when the odds are heavily stacked in your favor.

[Iniggywetrust]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You are serious? Brodie and Tanev have very similar stats last season...plus you add Vali

AND A TOP 5 GOALIE which is a massive add


Stone, Hamonic, Jako, lol those guys weren't even playing

In what measurable way is Markstrom a top 5 goalie?

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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust

In what measurable way is Markstrom a top 5 goalie?

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Just finished 4th in Vezina voting which is awarded to the best goalie in the league.

Bunch of other stuff about his high danger save % and other things showing how he propped up a horrible Canucks team

[dammage79]

Well after reading Friedman thing about Anderson, all I know is, the Flames are hunting for a top 6 RHS forward. So it does not surprise me in the least that they'd be in talks with Buffalo since Reinhart is potentially available.

Don't think it's for Monny (Although Adams does love him someonahan) or Johnny.

Like when that rumor was posted I said Mangipane and Ritter would be the pieces. Makes sense to me, perfectly.

Someone asked me specifically earlier why I thought Reinhart was a great fit with Backs and Chucky. He has serious finish, and has elite playmaking skills. He might not be gritty enough to register on the fabled RGI meter but he can play. And looks pretty good doing it.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well after reading Friedman thing about Anderson, all I know is, the Flames are hunting for a top 6 RHS forward. So it does not surprise me in the least that they'd be in talks with Buffalo since Reinhart is potentially available.

Don't think it's for Monny (Although Adams does love him someonahan) or Johnny.

Like when that rumor was posted I said Mangipane and Ritter would be the pieces. Makes sense to me, perfectly.

Someone asked me specifically earlier why I thought Reinhart was a great fit with Backs and Chucky. He has serious finish, and has elite playmaking skills. He might not be gritty enough to register on the fabled RGI meter but he can play. And looks pretty good doing it.

Been hunting for a top 6 RHS forward since March 28, 2013.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Been hunting for a top 6 RHS forward since March 28, 2013.

Well they have one now. Just need that 2nd one!

[Geeoff]

I like Anderson as a player, but not for more than Montreal paid for him...

We're talking Dube+ and then paying him that ridiculous contract.

[TheIronMaiden]

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[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust

In what measurable way is Markstrom a top 5 goalie?

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You haven't been paying much attention have you? He is viewed as a top 5 goalie in the league by most - as was stated he finished 4th in Vezina voting. I've even heard a few analytics guys say he could be the best goalie in the league based on the last two years. So yes, plenty of evidence for this.

[bubbsy]

It's another offseason, where the flames exited the playoffs with decent goaltending, and a mediocre (then better this past year) defensive performance in the first round elimination.

The BIGGEST question media and fans were left asking again, are monahan and gaudreau good enough to be the primary offensive drivers of 5on 5 offence during the tight checking part of the hockey calendar?

I think most have already come to their own conclusion that the answer is No. The next question is can this team still win by simply trying to improve the d/goaltending and a less drastic change up front (ie. Bringing in a new top6 rw). It sure feels like that's where this offseason is headed.

To me, that's basically arriving at the tough conclusion that this core is what it is, let's try to just make the playoffs again for another year or 2 before trying to rebuild the core.

As a fan, I'm not thrilled with this approach. We're the new Minnesota wild...

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I like Anderson as a player, but not for more than Montreal paid for him...

We're talking Dube+ and then paying him that ridiculous contract.

Yeah with only one compressed and shortened season between Anderson and UFA he really held all the cards. Especially heads up against a team that just gave up a 25 year old top 6 forward and a 3rd round pick to acquire his rights.

[Bunk]

Lots of teams have shooters on their off-wing. It can be an advantage. Not sure why they're so obsessed with handedness. Surely Tkachuk could make the switch.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Backlund-Lindholm

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well after reading Friedman thing about Anderson, all I know is, the Flames are hunting for a top 6 RHS forward. So it does not surprise me in the least that they'd be in talks with Buffalo since Reinhart is potentially available.

Don't think it's for Monny (Although Adams does love him someonahan) or Johnny.

Like when that rumor was posted I said Mangipane and Ritter would be the pieces. Makes sense to me, perfectly.

Someone asked me specifically earlier why I thought Reinhart was a great fit with Backs and Chucky. He has serious finish, and has elite playmaking skills. He might not be gritty enough to register on the fabled RGI meter but he can play. And looks pretty good doing it.

I would be happy with a Mangipane+Rittich for Reinhart trade. Could work for both teams for sure.

I know Sabre’s fans think it would be a one for one deal but if Monahan and Reinhart were being traded for each other I would want Cozens as part of the return as well

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would be happy with a Mangipane+Rittich for Reinhart trade. Could work for both teams for sure.

I know Sabre’s fans think it would be a one for one deal but if Monahan and Reinhart were being traded for each other I would want Cozens as part of the return as well

Cozens is too steep of an add into a trade where the pieces being exchanged are of similar value. Only reason Monahan may be considered worth maybe an additional 3rd or 4th to Reinhart would be due to the fact he plays centre.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Cozens is too steep of an add into a trade where the pieces being exchanged are of similar value. Only reason Monahan may be considered worth maybe an additional 3rd or 4th to Reinhart would be due to the fact he plays centre.

Then I have no interest in the swap.

Monahan has 411pts in 541 games 0.76/ppg
Reinhart has 255pts in 400 games 0.64/ppg

One is a center and the other is a winger.
One has 7 22 goal seasons including 3 over 30 the other has a career high of 25 goals.

One has scored over 51pts once the other has 58 points or more 5 times.
RFA vs 3 year term

Monahan >> Reinhart and the difference is more than a 3rd.

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Then I have no interest in the swap.

Monahan has 411pts in 541 games 0.76/ppg
Reinhart has 255pts in 400 games 0.64/ppg

One is a center and the other is a winger.
One has 7 22 goal seasons including 3 over 30 the other has a career high of 25 goals.

One has scored over 51pts once the other has 58 points or more 5 times.
RFA vs 3 year term

Monahan >> Reinhart and the difference is more than a 3rd.

One hasn't played for a team that has been over .500 in any of the seasons he's been there. Which is why I stressed acquiring him, not so dissimilar to Lindholm, may turn him into a 70 point player if hes given a better situation to thrive. Buffalo knows his value and I don't think they make that trade.

Also, is there a statistic for GAF level?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

One hasn't played for a team that has been over .500 in any of the seasons he's been there. Which is why I stressed acquiring him, not so dissimilar to Lindholm, may turn him into a 70 point player if hes given a better situation to thrive. Buffalo knows his value and I don't think they make that trade.

Also, is there a statistic for GAF level?

Reinhart plays with a franchise level center in Eichel so I don’t see him coming to Calgary and getting far better offensive stats.

If Reinhart is coming in a trade for Monahan or Gaudreau I am hoping the plus that is added to Reinhart is significant and not a throw away pick. It would be a brutal trade for Calgary otherwise

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Reinhart plays with a franchise level center in Eichel so I don’t see him coming to Calgary and getting far better offensive stats.

If Reinhart is coming in a trade for Monahan or Gaudreau I am hoping the plus that is added to Reinhart is significant and not a throw away pick. It would be a brutal trade for Calgary otherwise

Fair enough, but Monahan enjoying the fruits of Gaudreau isn't such a slouch either. I was just saying Cozens, a coveted first line prospect who is ready to play third line minutes this year, is definitely not the difference. I'm not sure what would be.