10-12-2020, 07:39 PM
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Just look at their goalie tandem, I'd be mad too. If that's not obvious tanking then I don't know what is
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10-12-2020, 07:57 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by btimbit
Just look at their goalie tandem, I'd be mad too. If that's not obvious tanking then I don't know what is
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From Crawford and Lehner, to Subban and Delia?
That is quite the change in one season.
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10-12-2020, 07:59 PM
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#43
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Iginla basically said the same thing...he didn't want to be around for a rebuild...and then the Flames won a playoff round 2 years later (something he did one year of his entire Flames career)
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10-12-2020, 08:04 PM
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#44
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Oh boo frickin hoo
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That's the kind of player i'd want on my team. Someone who gives a damn about the direction his team is going and wants to be involved.
Frankly I think he's earned the right to complain. He's given his heart and soul to the Hawks and it seems he'd like to play the rest of his career there.
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10-12-2020, 08:15 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Isn't this the cost of success? They won't three Cups and got paid. With their huge salaries it's been much harder to put a team around them, especially as the cores skills decline.
I get they may not want a rebuild but this is the end cycle for their incredible dynasty. No use being upset about it.
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10-12-2020, 08:19 PM
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#47
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Iginla basically said the same thing...he didn't want to be around for a rebuild...and then the Flames won a playoff round 2 years later (something he did one year of his entire Flames career)
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Yup... He also also got to go to the Eastern Conference finals that season. Too bad we got garbage for him!
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10-12-2020, 08:49 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff
Isn't this the cost of success? They won't three Cups and got paid. With their huge salaries it's been much harder to put a team around them, especially as the cores skills decline.
I get they may not want a rebuild but this is the end cycle for their incredible dynasty. No use being upset about it.
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Pretty much this. Toews has 2 options, honour contract he signed and stay for rebuild or ask for trade. They were not going to go his whole career without a rebuild in there somewhere.
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10-12-2020, 09:13 PM
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#49
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Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff
Isn't this the cost of success? They won't three Cups and got paid. With their huge salaries it's been much harder to put a team around them, especially as the cores skills decline.
I get they may not want a rebuild but this is the end cycle for their incredible dynasty. No use being upset about it.
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Nobody forced Kane and Toews to sign for $10.5M. They could have taken team friendly deals (and still been rich af) if they wanted to continue playing for a competitive team. But they took the payday, and now Chicago can't pay for any other good players, and they have to rebuild. Sucks for them, but they should have seen this coming.
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Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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10-12-2020, 09:21 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by codynw
Nobody forced Kane and Toews to sign for $10.5M. They could have taken team friendly deals (and still been rich af) if they wanted to continue playing for a competitive team. But they took the payday, and now Chicago can't pay for any other good players, and they have to rebuild. Sucks for them, but they should have seen this coming.
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Lots of players just can’t see past their immediate circumstances. Tells me that Toews isn’t the leader I thought he was - undermining the team publicly isn’t a good thing.
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10-12-2020, 09:33 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Bowman has been slowly destroying that team for years anyway with some of the worst trades and signings in the league.
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June 23, 2017: Artemi Panarin was traded to Columbus by Chicago with Tyler Motte and Chicago's 6th round pick in 2017 NHL Draft for Brandon Saad, Anton Forsberg and Columbus' 5th round pick in 2018 NHL Draft.
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10-12-2020, 09:36 PM
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#52
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Lots of players just can’t see past their immediate circumstances. Tells me that Toews isn’t the leader I thought he was - undermining the team publicly isn’t a good thing.
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I would gladly pay a guy 10.5 million for 3 Stanley cups, a Conn Smythe, ,Selke and 2 gold medals.
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10-12-2020, 09:40 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by PegCityFlamesFan
I would gladly pay a guy 10.5 million for 3 Stanley cups, a Conn Smythe, ,Selke and 2 gold medals.
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Not sure of your point here.
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10-12-2020, 09:43 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
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He's a big reason the Oilers got punted Toews can say whatever he wants in my book.
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10-12-2020, 09:54 PM
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#55
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What did last season show Toews? That they were an up and coming team? Everyone and their monkey knew that Chicago is either IN a rebuild, or that they SHOULD be rebuilding. Now he is upset about not being consulted? All kinds of funny with that situation.
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10-12-2020, 10:55 PM
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#56
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Originally Posted by browna
Part of the reason they need to rebuild on the cheap is the $27m that those 4 guys are chewing up of the salary cap.
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$33.4 million. Toews and Kane make $10.5M each, Keith makes about $5.5M, and Seabrook makes $6.875M. Seabrook's contract in particular is a huge albatross, it lasts another four years with a full NMC. Best they could hope for is he simply retires.
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10-12-2020, 11:09 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by timun
$33.4 million. Toews and Kane make $10.5M each, Keith makes about $5.5M, and Seabrook makes $6.875M. Seabrook's contract in particular is a huge albatross, it lasts another four years with a full NMC. Best they could hope for is he simply retires.
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Or more likely Injured.
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10-12-2020, 11:16 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Man every part of me wants to see
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kane
..... please hockey gods
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10-13-2020, 12:41 AM
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#59
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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Reading this thread I only have one thought...
Tkachuk- Monahan - Kane in your top 6 is shades of Hossa - Toews - Kane in your top 6.
I would throw the whole 9 yards plus the kitchen sink at Chicago for him.
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10-13-2020, 07:13 AM
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#60
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Trade Kane to Calgary .
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Let’s see if I understand this. Toews is unhappy so the Hawks will trade Kane to us?
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