10-11-2020, 08:27 PM
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#221
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
This is the weirdest amount of vitriol I’ve ever seen for a player who we shouldn’t care about. He isn’t a former flame, he didn’t sign with a rival, he accepted a decent contract, he reunites with a coach he likes and gets to be a star on a young team.
What gives? Fire his agent? Sellout and doesn’t care about winning? Get a grip.
Good for Buffalo and good for hall. What’s the problem again?
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It likely turns out poorly for Hall if he had any long term offers on the table...so probably not good for him IMO
its a message board people are going to have strong opinions
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10-11-2020, 08:28 PM
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#222
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Adrian Dater @adater
I believe the Avs offered Hall one year, $6.5 million. He went to Buffalo for $8 mil.
That’s the way the puck bounces
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10-11-2020, 08:29 PM
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#223
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
I think the draft was fantastic, but I think free agency was a disaster.
Keeping Ward was a decision I didn't like.
The biggest problems in the playoffs weren't addressed. 17 million in cap space is gone, with only a 15 point defenseman to show for it in terms of scoring (and about 100 points worth in scoring walked away as free agents).
Both major signings on players on the wrong side of 30. One of which has already regressed in 3 consecutive years.
Tod Button (drafting) and Ron Sutter/Ray Edwards (development) are basically keeping the team afloat at this point.
I thought Treliving should have been fired once Dallas beat the Flames.
None of the recent actions have changed my mind in the slightest.
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Terribad take is terribad.
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10-11-2020, 08:30 PM
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#224
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Silver lining is he went to a non-contender out east. I was dreading the thought of him playing with MacKinnon and Rantanen.
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10-11-2020, 08:30 PM
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#225
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Ugh this is disappointing but I guess once Tanev signed his deal the writing was on the wall that we didn't have the room for him cap-wise.
Signings like Brouwer, Neal, Tanev, etc. are killing us. I think Hall was a serious possibility in Calgary if we had space.
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Hall probably didn't want to come here. He was probably looking for an elite center to play with, to pad his stats for a year so he can really cash in next season. If winning was his priority, he would've taken a 1 year deal with a good team like Colorado or Boston but he probably looked at those teams and realized he would be on line 2. He's looking to boost his value, clearly.
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10-11-2020, 08:30 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I just drool at the thought of Hoffman and Monahan on a PP with Gaudreau feeding whichever one is open. We've needed another pure shooter for a while (all due respect to Tkachuck and Lindholm), and I just don't see anyone besides Monahan who is an elite shooter. It makes it easy to defend when they know Gaudreau is always going to try to get the puck to Monahan.
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Major flashbacks of this exact thinking:
I just drool at the thought of Neal and Monahan on a PP with Gaudreau feeding whichever one is open. We've needed another pure shooter for a while (all due respect to Tkachuck and Lindholm), and I just don't see anyone besides Monahan who is an elite shooter. It makes it easy to defend when they know Gaudreau is always going to try to get the puck to Monahan.
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10-11-2020, 08:30 PM
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#227
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
This is the weirdest amount of vitriol I’ve ever seen for a player who we shouldn’t care about. He isn’t a former flame, he didn’t sign with a rival, he accepted a decent contract, he reunites with a coach he likes and gets to be a star on a young team.
What gives? Fire his agent? Sellout and doesn’t care about winning? Get a grip.
Good for Buffalo and good for hall. What’s the problem again?
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A good many people had pencilled him into the lineup in a Tavares-coming-home situation. Probably feel spurned and hurt after a year of fan fuelled narrative that he was anxious to come play for the Flames ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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10-11-2020, 08:32 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
This is the weirdest amount of vitriol I’ve ever seen for a player who we shouldn’t care about. He isn’t a former flame, he didn’t sign with a rival, he accepted a decent contract, he reunites with a coach he likes and gets to be a star on a young team.
What gives? Fire his agent? Sellout and doesn’t care about winning? Get a grip.
Good for Buffalo and good for hall. What’s the problem again?
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Half of CP had a Hall signing and a Gaudreau trade pencilled in for next season.
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10-11-2020, 08:33 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Adrian Dater @adater
I believe the Avs offered Hall one year, $6.5 million. He went to Buffalo for $8 mil.
That’s the way the puck bounces
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I'm sorry but this is pure and utter lunacy if Hall really wants to win. To choose Buffalo over Colorado for $1.5 million?
No wonder he failed his boating exam multiple times.
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10-11-2020, 08:33 PM
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#230
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by FlameyMcFlameFace
Give it a rest, if he wanted to be a Flames, he would be here. Stop this non sense
The only thing one can argue is maybe he wants to be a Kraken
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Why? You have you opinion and he has his. He didn't tell you to give your opinion a rest.
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10-11-2020, 08:35 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
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This isn't a Flames thing...fans and media around the league are strongly questioning his rational here, and I am being polite
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10-11-2020, 08:35 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
A good many people had pencilled him into the lineup in a Tavares-coming-home situation. Probably feel spurned and hurt after a year of fan fuelled narrative that he was anxious to come play for the Flames ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Most fans here are well grounded, they just tend to have strong opinions one way or another at times. I doubt anyone's feeling were hurt. Disappointment for some for sure.
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10-11-2020, 08:35 PM
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#233
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by dino7c
It likely turns out poorly for Hall if he had any long term offers on the table...so probably not good for him IMO
its a message board people are going to have strong opinions
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Nah. People are way too butthurt for it to be because they’re armchair agents and care about his contract value.
Which is just a guess on your part and based on zero evidence. I think this is an excellent contract and will turn out great for Hall. Great signing for Buffalo too.
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10-11-2020, 08:36 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
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Maybe they give him an 8 year extension...hello 9 year contract
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10-11-2020, 08:37 PM
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#235
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I'm sorry but this is pure and utter lunacy if Hall really wants to win. To choose Buffalo over Colorado for $1.5 million?
No wonder he failed his boating exam multiple times.
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If 1.5M wasn't an issue, we would likely had Brodie re-signed, but we don't. Damn that greedy Brodie huh?
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10-11-2020, 08:39 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Nah. People are way too butthurt for it to be because they’re armchair agents and care about his contract value.
Which is just a guess on your part and based on zero evidence. I think this is an excellent contract and will turn out great for Hall. Great signing for Buffalo too.
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You do know what IMO means right?
bad season, gets hurt, league has basically zero revenue,
Any of these things could have him wind up taking a worse contract next summer...getting hurt badly ends up with him getting no contract.
There is a reason star players that are UFAs for the first time almost always go for term. Unless Taylor Hall is the smartest guy in the room.
I might work out better for him...more likely it doesn't
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10-11-2020, 08:39 PM
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#237
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by OminousFlames
If 1.5M wasn't an issue, we would likely had Brodie re-signed, but we don't. Damn that greedy Brodie huh?
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What a stupid comparison.
Brodie signed with a very good team, not a bottom feeder like Buffalo.
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10-11-2020, 08:41 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Brodie signed with a very good team, not a bottom feeder like Buffalo.
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Very good team that hasn't won a playoff series in 16 years...Brodie did go home though, actual home
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10-11-2020, 08:43 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Very good team that hasn't won a playoff series in 16 years
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It was a stupid comparison.
Brodie actually signed with a team that finished higher than the Flames in the standings. Plus he actually grw up in the area and was a Leafs fan growing up.
Hall signed with the 2nd worst team in the league over the last 15 years, second only to the lowly oilers.
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10-11-2020, 08:47 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
It was a stupid comparison.
Brodie actually signed with a team that finished higher than the Flames in the standings. Plus he actually grw up in the area and was a Leafs fan growing up.
Hall signed with the 2nd worst team in the league over the last 15 years, second only to the lowly oilers.
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Hall made a terrible decision that likely blows up in his face for sure...I just don't like giving the Leafs anything
Didn't make the playoffs don't forget...Brodie and Simmons put them over the top? doubt it
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